Pigs of the Roman Empire

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Vcavallo

as far as i am concerned, and i think others may feel the same, i am rating this album in the realm of all music, not just the melvins catalogue.  when i say it is a great album, i mean it is better (more creative, more interesting, more mood generated, enough changes in intensity to not be mundane) than a good number of other bands releases.  that doesn't mean that it is better than other melvins albums...i definitely don't think it is one of their best at all, but their worst is still better than alot of the records you see while stalking up and down a music store's causeways.
Vinney "only takes 15 years to make good on his promises" Cavallo

LouiLoomis

Quote from: Vcavalloas far as i am concerned, and i think others may feel the same, i am rating this album in the realm of all music, not just the melvins catalogue.  when i say it is a great album, i mean it is better (more creative, more interesting, more mood generated, enough changes in intensity to not be mundane) than a good number of other bands releases.  that doesn't mean that it is better than other melvins albums...i definitely don't think it is one of their best at all, but their worst is still better than alot of the records you see while stalking up and down a music store's causeways.

Well said.  :cheers:

Jess

i must retract my statement about lustmord in an earlier post.  the man knows what he's doing.  i've had the album 5 days and i've already got a semi-interesting story.  got off work friday night and drank a fifth of jose cuervo. why?  i was in the mood.  well around 3 in the morning me and a buddy sat in my truck listening to pigs.  the sound scapes that lustmord did made me throw up.  i swear.  they will make your head spin.  listen to the song pigs very loudly and it just might happen to you.

on second thought that's not even semi-interesting

Galvano

Quote from: Vcavalloas far as i am concerned, and i think others may feel the same, i am rating this album in the realm of all music, not just the melvins catalogue.  when i say it is a great album, i mean it is better (more creative, more interesting, more mood generated, enough changes in intensity to not be mundane) than a good number of other bands releases.  that doesn't mean that it is better than other melvins albums...i definitely don't think it is one of their best at all, but their worst is still better than alot of the records you see while stalking up and down a music store's causeways.

I rate the record from what's on there.
Comparing it to a Britney Spears album would just be plain stupid.  8)

benton netty

Quote from: Galvano
Quote from: Vcavalloas far as i am concerned, and i think others may feel the same, i am rating this album in the realm of all music, not just the melvins catalogue.  when i say it is a great album, i mean it is better (more creative, more interesting, more mood generated, enough changes in intensity to not be mundane) than a good number of other bands releases.  that doesn't mean that it is better than other melvins albums...i definitely don't think it is one of their best at all, but their worst is still better than alot of the records you see while stalking up and down a music store's causeways.

I rate the record from what's on there.
Comparing it to a Britney Spears album would just be plain stupid.  8)

indeed. saying that the album is better than 90% of the shit in a record store is probably not too hard, if you're taking into account the hoobastanks, ushers, and good charlottes of the world. but judging something by its relative value when compared to complete and utter SHIT is the easy way out.

i think the only way to rate this album is to compare it to the other albums that the melvins have done. does it hold up to the rest of their discography, or not?

i guess i have trouble figuring out why someone would defend this album while at the same time saying "i definitely don't think it is one of their best at all."

klump

im listening to the intro to pink bat now...i think this is the ONLY album you can call TRULY speaker SHREDDING :) at least rock record  :wink:

groundmeat

So tony buddy, got a question for you - what do you think of Honky ?

I am interested in this because you seem to feel very strongly about POTRE being worthless
noise for the most part, and Honky, to me at least, is an album that sharply distinguishes
between people who like straightahead sludge-melvins and those who prefer them
"experimenting". Helps me udnerstand where you fall in the spectrum.


I've asked this before and Metalhead Cow and Dr. Gonzo both love it but likes/hates POTRE. I
personally think Honky is one of the two best melvins albums (maggot being the other one).

klump

what people has to understad is that their favourite albums are NOT the best ones for EVERYONE...

anyone who thinks that thats the way it should be, are a bunch of neo facists pricks...

benton netty

Quote from: groundmeatSo tony buddy, got a question for you - what do you think of Honky ?

I am interested in this because you seem to feel very strongly about POTRE being worthless
noise for the most part, and Honky, to me at least, is an album that sharply distinguishes
between people who like straightahead sludge-melvins and those who prefer them
"experimenting". Helps me udnerstand where you fall in the spectrum.


I've asked this before and Metalhead Cow and Dr. Gonzo both love it but likes/hates POTRE. I
personally think Honky is one of the two best melvins albums (maggot being the other one).

i fucking LOVE honky.

i think it's like their pink floyd album or something.

there are moments that aren't so great (that one track with the drum machine that just speeds up is a little pointless), but that album is mostly pure, mad-scientist creativity. i love it. as a matter of fact, i think i'm going to go and put it on right now! :lol:

the true difference, i think, is that honky, while very weird, is still constructed of the melvins playing songs they have written. this new album is packed full of some other guy making boring sci-fi sound effects. therein lies the difference.

benton netty

Quote from: klumpwhat people has to understad is that their favourite albums are NOT the best ones for EVERYONE...

anyone who thinks that thats the way it should be, are a bunch of neo facists pricks...

what are you shitting out your fingers, now?

no one is trying to tell people what to listen to. me, i'm making a statement, an argument, and standing by it. it's called a debate. there's plenty of music that i personally don't like, but have no problem understanding why other people like it. i'm making an argument that lustmord and others of his ilk are not making art of any real worth.

so shut up.

klump

hehe, you can make a statement but i cant ?

i wasnt talking about you in specific...but if you felt that it fit dont blame me :)

Metalhead Cow

Quote from: groundmeatSo tony buddy, got a question for you - what do you think of Honky ?

I am interested in this because you seem to feel very strongly about POTRE being worthless
noise for the most part, and Honky, to me at least, is an album that sharply distinguishes
between people who like straightahead sludge-melvins and those who prefer them
"experimenting". Helps me udnerstand where you fall in the spectrum.


I've asked this before and Metalhead Cow and Dr. Gonzo both love it but likes/hates POTRE. I
personally think Honky is one of the two best melvins albums (maggot being the other one).

Hey, my name got mentioned.  :toke:   \:D/

Metalhead Cow

Quote from: klumpim listening to the intro to pink bat now...i think this is the ONLY album you can call TRULY speaker SHREDDING :) at least rock record  :wink:

Yeah, the intro is so cool. It gets LOUD, and your'e forced to turn the volume down. Then it just fades away, getting softer-So your turn the volume up, and it gets fucking loud again. And then you got a voice saying something about triple A batteries. Melvins love to fuck with people. :toke:

Pink Bat has REALLY grown on me. I really like Buzzo's vocal placement over the song (you guys know what I mean?). It has a cool solo at the end, and then a great outro.

Cool song. 8)

klump

I still think safety third is better than pink bat :)

but pink bat isnt as shallow as it sounds the first time you listen...its got lots of different details you discover through repteated listening :)

Metalhead Cow

Quote from: klumpI still think safety third is better than pink bat :)

but pink bat isnt as shallow as it sounds the first time you listen...its got lots of different details you discover through repteated listening :)

Oh, don't get me wrong-I like Safety Third alot more than Pink Bat. Safety Third is just classic. I also fucking love Zzzz Best. It's like an intro for Safety Third, and when you listen to them together, it's really cool. III to The Bloated Pope is ausome too.