Is it possible that Houdini is being Bootlegged?

Started by camaroballa22, May 06, 2010, 11:47:06 PM

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camaroballa22

If i get sniped one more time on Houdini, im gonna sink my swan in someones face!!!!!!!
I have lost this auction the last 10 times its been up! Sure, im trying to get SOMEWHAT of a bargain, but my bids are very competitive!
So this leads me to my question,
It is POSSIBLE that this record is being bootlegged by someone out there. Its weird too, Im only seeing AMREP Houdini, no atlantics and the covers ARE MINT!! On all of them! How is that possible?? Not even the SLIGHTEST sign of ring wear! Im talking 9/10 and VERY glossy.
Plus i've seen a few SEALED copies in the last couple months.
I mean...this record is ON FIRE!!!
$127-160 EVERYTIME.
I mean...theyve done it with the tool stuff, and people have cashed in. When that first wave of Aenima and 10,000 days came out, they were well over $100 each.

So am i totally crazy to think that someone is re-releasing these in their basements??
but since prices are the highest they've ever been, people are just cashing in on their houdinis?
HELP!
"Sweet Melinda, the peasants call her the goddess of gloom.
She speaks good English and she invites you up into her room."

bUTTHOLEmAN

There was a ton created initially; I can't believe it would be worth it to bootleg it.   
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i'll LET YOU RUB ME BELLY!


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jules

Aren't there some without gatefold sleeves that were bootlegged a long time ago?

bUTTHOLEmAN

Wasn't a boot, rather a german release on atlantic.  I could be wrong on this.  The Amrep version is the gatefold version.
if you CALL ME ON MY CELLY
i'll LET YOU RUB ME BELLY!


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kill yr idols
emperors wear no clothes
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camaroballa22

There are two releases of houdini. Amrep with gatefold and rocket reducer, and Atlantic with NO gatefold and spread eagle beagle.
NOW the prodo runs, i do not know. I know one is 5000.
Not worth it to bootleg? it wouldnt be hard with an original and its selling for almost 150 a pop.
im just a little weary.  Im pretty sure that there were only 5000 amrep copies.
I have bought tons of boots. Temple of the dog, Aenima, 10000 days. Some good, some not so good.
A good bootleg is Aenima. Only difference were the full color sleeves were missing. Another good bootleg is the Love Buzz nirvana single and the Hormoaning autralian Nirvana ep.
There is a record store by where i live (VINTAGE VINYL!!!) and they have a little richard album from the 50's and its only $100 and in great shape.
What makes houdini rarer than that little richard album?!
"Sweet Melinda, the peasants call her the goddess of gloom.
She speaks good English and she invites you up into her room."

the crybaby

Quote from: camaroballa22 on May 07, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
There are two releases of houdini. Amrep with gatefold and rocket reducer, and Atlantic with NO gatefold and spread eagle beagle.
NOW the prodo runs, i do not know. I know one is 5000.
Not worth it to bootleg? it wouldnt be hard with an original and its selling for almost 150 a pop.
im just a little weary.  Im pretty sure that there were only 5000 amrep copies.
I have bought tons of boots. Temple of the dog, Aenima, 10000 days. Some good, some not so good.
A good bootleg is Aenima. Only difference were the full color sleeves were missing. Another good bootleg is the Love Buzz nirvana single and the Hormoaning autralian Nirvana ep.
There is a record store by where i live (VINTAGE VINYL!!!) and they have a little richard album from the 50's and its only $100 and in great shape.
What makes houdini rarer than that little richard album?!

the german one is a bootleg...
the same happened to stoner witch - the non gatefold is a bootleg

camaroballa22

I've seen a german houdini. Claimed to be atlantic with a spelling error on sky pup, listed as "sky up"
In what areas/countries were the Atlantic version released??
"Sweet Melinda, the peasants call her the goddess of gloom.
She speaks good English and she invites you up into her room."

MeddlingCrybaby

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>>>JZS<<<

Quote from: the crybaby on May 07, 2010, 03:32:39 AM
Quote from: camaroballa22 on May 07, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
There are two releases of houdini. Amrep with gatefold and rocket reducer, and Atlantic with NO gatefold and spread eagle beagle.
NOW the prodo runs, i do not know. I know one is 5000.
Not worth it to bootleg? it wouldnt be hard with an original and its selling for almost 150 a pop.
im just a little weary.  Im pretty sure that there were only 5000 amrep copies.
I have bought tons of boots. Temple of the dog, Aenima, 10000 days. Some good, some not so good.
A good bootleg is Aenima. Only difference were the full color sleeves were missing. Another good bootleg is the Love Buzz nirvana single and the Hormoaning autralian Nirvana ep.
There is a record store by where i live (VINTAGE VINYL!!!) and they have a little richard album from the 50's and its only $100 and in great shape.
What makes houdini rarer than that little richard album?!

the german one is a bootleg...
the same happened to stoner witch - the non gatefold is a bootleg

Hey Crybaby, are any of your other Melvins vinyl items boots ? ...I know 'Tanx' is and 'Boris the Pervert' is.(although I think the Melvins may have
put out 'Boris the Pervert', complete with wrong song listing.)....Anyway, you have a lot of versions of singles & vinyl colors that I've never seen in the States, at least on the east coast.

the crybaby

Quote from: camaroballa22 on May 07, 2010, 08:58:23 AM
I've seen a german houdini. Claimed to be atlantic with a spelling error on sky pup, listed as "sky up"
In what areas/countries were the Atlantic version released??


i checked my german pressing, "SKY PU" at the lebel...
i also checked the german pressing of stoner witch -> "GOOSE FRRIGHT TRAIN"

the crybaby

Quote from: >>>JZS<<< on May 07, 2010, 09:54:22 AM
Hey Crybaby, are any of your other Melvins vinyl items boots ? ...I know 'Tanx' is and 'Boris the Pervert' is.(although I think the Melvins may have
put out 'Boris the Pervert', complete with wrong song listing.)....Anyway, you have a lot of versions of singles & vinyl colors that I've never seen in the States, at least on the east coast.

this is the list of bootlegs i know:
Outtakes from the 1st Single 7" Do The Right Things Rec CSJ-1008 edit. 1000
Tanks 7" Powerfist Rec P.F.-41302
Tanx 7" Powerfist Rec P.F.-41302 LE2 0QS
Split w/ Mudhoney 7" PA-001
1st comes in manila envelope w/ porn magazine edit. 100
2nd edit. 500
2 diff. covers   pink cover
      white cover
Split w/ Malfunkshun      7"      no label
                        1st pressing Melvins Fan Club Box-Set w/ 2 inserts + "heroin" edit. 100
                        2nd pressing clear-red wax edit. 100
                           blue cover w/ 1 insert
                           blue cover w/ 2 inserts "fiend club edition"
                           rosa cover w/ 1 insert
                           rosa cover w/ 2 inserts "fiend club edition"
                     3rd pressing black wax edit. 300
Split w/ Mudhoney      7"      S.Q. Rec 02
                     black wax edit. 600
                     maroon wax edit. 300
Split w/ Nirvana         7"      Utopia Rec Comm 23
Split w/ Plainfield      7"      Smelly Rec SR-07 edit. 500
Leech            CD      Cool Hand Production / Egg Music Egg One edit. 1000
Boris The Pervert   LP      Sanrio MP #16 clear-orange wax

>>>JZS<<<

Quote from: the crybaby on May 07, 2010, 02:34:44 PM
Quote from: >>>JZS<<< on May 07, 2010, 09:54:22 AM
Hey Crybaby, are any of your other Melvins vinyl items boots ? ...I know 'Tanx' is and 'Boris the Pervert' is.(although I think the Melvins may have
put out 'Boris the Pervert', complete with wrong song listing.)....Anyway, you have a lot of versions of singles & vinyl colors that I've never seen in the States, at least on the east coast.

this is the list of bootlegs i know:
Outtakes from the 1st Single 7" Do The Right Things Rec CSJ-1008 edit. 1000
Tanks 7" Powerfist Rec P.F.-41302
Tanx 7" Powerfist Rec P.F.-41302 LE2 0QS
Split w/ Mudhoney 7" PA-001
1st comes in manila envelope w/ porn magazine edit. 100
2nd edit. 500
2 diff. covers   pink cover
      white cover
Split w/ Malfunkshun      7"      no label
                        1st pressing Melvins Fan Club Box-Set w/ 2 inserts + "heroin" edit. 100
                        2nd pressing clear-red wax edit. 100
                           blue cover w/ 1 insert
                           blue cover w/ 2 inserts "fiend club edition"
                           rosa cover w/ 1 insert
                           rosa cover w/ 2 inserts "fiend club edition"
                     3rd pressing black wax edit. 300
Split w/ Mudhoney      7"      S.Q. Rec 02
                     black wax edit. 600
                     maroon wax edit. 300
Split w/ Nirvana         7"      Utopia Rec Comm 23
Split w/ Plainfield      7"      Smelly Rec SR-07 edit. 500
Leech            CD      Cool Hand Production / Egg Music Egg One edit. 1000
Boris The Pervert   LP      Sanrio MP #16 clear-orange wax

Cool, thanks.