reflecting on...Mark D

[pinkyslim]

Now that I have listened to his new release and The silent tratment...

He is the sound of HONKY/STAG 
The mellow/heavy trippy hippy stuff is ALL Mark.

the dude is  hands down the best of the all other bass dudes.
Almost genius.
Maybe a power struggle cuz he has top notch talent.

I have seen the light and it's a guy w/ a ten gallon hat.

[jules]

Now that I have listened to his new release and The silent tratment...

He is the sound of HONKY/STAG 
The mellow/heavy trippy hippy stuff is ALL Mark.

the dude is  hands down the best of the all other bass dudes.
Almost genius.
Maybe a power struggle cuz he has top notch talent.

I have seen the light and it's a foreign guy w/ a ten gallon hat.

fixed 

[John Schuller]

He was a HUGE part of the Melvins during that era. I really hear it in the production style too. I am just glad that he is still making music!!!

[(((O)))]

Maybe a power struggle cuz he has top notch talent.

Perhaps im wrong but i always think you can see that vibe coming through in alot of the interviews with the three of them back then. Mark isnt content to play the side man, he always has something to say and at times takes the reign. Maybe Buzz likes the various collaborators to feel like they are on the same footing but i wonder otherwise. Mark is definitely skilled.

[pinkyslim]

I remember giving both Buzz and Mark a hard time for liking the Scorpions backstage at the Roxy in 1995?
Houdini industry show.
I remeber saying something like.." yea I love listening to a German singing in tight spandex".
Mark in a heart beat replied.."I will hold her down while you punch her Buzz"..
Mark handed me a shirt after the show an goofed around alot.  

[Greasy Statement]

the mark years are when i got into the band and i have nothing but great feelings towards those albums. i was pretty sad when i heard mark was gone (something about cowboy bassists like tracey pew rules, dammit) but that's the way it goes. i remember he really got on the nerves of the host of "loud" (a video show on much music here in canada) because she was annoyed by his cheesy one liners and constant interruptions. i found it pretty endearing, actually...

[Chief Ten Beers]

Yeah, he was great and all, but bottom line is  if you're in the band and you think you're gonna shop the Melvins around to majors, GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. Next!

[anaconda]

I don't think the problem was wanting to shop to a major label per se,
I think it had to do with him wanting them to change their sound to
something more palatable to a major label.

[FartLips]

I remember giving both Buzz and Mark a hard time for liking the Scorpions backstage at the Roxy in 1995?
Houdini industry show.
I remeber saying something like.." yea I love listening to a German singing in tight spandex".
Mark in a heart beat replied.."I will hold her down while you punch her Buzz"..
Mark handed me a shirt after the show an goofed around alot.  

Yeah and that goofin' is part of what got him the boot.

[MrLuck87]

According to Buzz:

Why did (former Melvins bassist) Mark Deutrom leave?

He didn't leave. I kicked him out of the band.

Oh! Why? What did he do?

I didn't like playing with him anymore.

Is there dirt? I like dirt!

It's a long-winded story. Basically, over time I got to be more into the idea that he was wanting one thing and I was wanting another. We finished the last tour and I thought, `I don't wanna do this anymore.' Then I realized no, I didn't want to do it any more with HIM. That was it.

Why? Was he a jerk or something?

Why - I just don't feel like - I mean, we were doing fine before him and after him. I just never thought especially towards the end, that he wanted the same things that I wanted for the band. I'm not prepared to do a demo for a major label. We never did before. I've never fished for that ever. I'd be happy to send them some of our previous work, and they're welcome to come see our show, but I'm not gonna make a demo for any label - if that's what they want me to do, they can politely shove their heads up their ass. Is that why I've been making albums every year for the last 16 years? So I can come meet with a major label and pass their audition? FUCK. YOU.! I`m not putting myself in a position where they can tell me what's wrong with my music. NO FUCKING WAY. If they wanted to do that, I can't tell you how much money they'd have to offer. It would have to be like, "Here's a one with an infinite amount of zeros so I can tell you what's wrong you're your music." And bands who do that get exactly what they deserve. If you want to do that, my hats off to you. I'm not doing it.

So his whole goal was just to make big hit records at any cost?

At that point in our career, Mark was very much interested in doing that. After we got dropped from Atlantic, which I KNEW was going to happen because they didn't know what they were getting into when they signed with us. And we were honest with them. "We're not gonna be writing gritty pop tunes, I hope you understand." But then they signed an awful lot of bands at that time without really knowing much about them, so we went ahead and did it. It was a great contract and we made three albums we really liked. For me, it was business as usual when we got dropped. You know, just find another label and keep going. But Mark was trying to set up all these meetings with labels. If you think I'm willing to hand over my music to a 23-year-old A&R guy so he can tell me what's wrong with it - I'm sorry, but that's just not going to happen. If they want to sign our band, I'm not like Howard Hughes - they can easily come and find me! But so far, they haven't and that's fine! Major labels don't care about quality.

Source: http://markprindle.com/kingbuzzo-i.htm

[pinkyslim]

According to Buzz:

Why did (former Melvins bassist) Mark Deutrom leave?

He didn't leave. I kicked him out of the band.

Oh! Why? What did he do?

I didn't like playing with him anymore.

Is there dirt? I like dirt!

It's a long-winded story. Basically, over time I got to be more into the idea that he was wanting one thing and I was wanting another. We finished the last tour and I thought, `I don't wanna do this anymore.' Then I realized no, I didn't want to do it any more with HIM. That was it.

Why? Was he a jerk or something?

Why - I just don't feel like - I mean, we were doing fine before him and after him. I just never thought especially towards the end, that he wanted the same things that I wanted for the band. I'm not prepared to do a demo for a major label. We never did before. I've never fished for that ever. I'd be happy to send them some of our previous work, and they're welcome to come see our show, but I'm not gonna make a demo for any label - if that's what they want me to do, they can politely shove their heads up their ass. Is that why I've been making albums every year for the last 16 years? So I can come meet with a major label and pass their audition? FUCK. YOU.! I`m not putting myself in a position where they can tell me what's wrong with my music. NO FUCKING WAY. If they wanted to do that, I can't tell you how much money they'd have to offer. It would have to be like, "Here's a one with an infinite amount of zeros so I can tell you what's wrong you're your music." And bands who do that get exactly what they deserve. If you want to do that, my hats off to you. I'm not doing it.

So his whole goal was just to make big hit records at any cost?

At that point in our career, Mark was very much interested in doing that. After we got dropped from Atlantic, which I KNEW was going to happen because they didn't know what they were getting into when they signed with us. And we were honest with them. "We're not gonna be writing gritty pop tunes, I hope you understand." But then they signed an awful lot of bands at that time without really knowing much about them, so we went ahead and did it. It was a great contract and we made three albums we really liked. For me, it was business as usual when we got dropped. You know, just find another label and keep going. But Mark was trying to set up all these meetings with labels. If you think I'm willing to hand over my music to a 23-year-old A&R guy so he can tell me what's wrong with it - I'm sorry, but that's just not going to happen. If they want to sign our band, I'm not like Howard Hughes - they can easily come and find me! But so far, they haven't and that's fine! Major labels don't care about quality.

Source: http://markprindle.com/kingbuzzo-i.htm

that's all fine and dandy BUT Mark Deutrom's releases are soooo not conventional.

File under-unclassified.

[black stallion]

Now that I have listened to his new release and The silent tratment...

He is the sound of HONKY/STAG  
The mellow/heavy trippy hippy stuff is ALL Mark.

the dude is  hands down the best of the all other bass dudes.
Almost genius.
Maybe a power struggle cuz he has top notch talent.

I have seen the light and it's a guy w/ a ten gallon hat.

what she said^

Yeah, he was great and all, but bottom line is  if you're in the band and you think you're gonna shop the Melvins around to majors, GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. Next!

yeah,their most recent stuff would be perfect for a major though

[rictus]

yeah,their most recent stuff would be perfect for a major though

Maybe even a car commercial.

[Braykfast]

yeah,their most recent stuff would be perfect for a major though

Maybe even a car commercial.

Dudes. This isn't Zing-Fest 2011.

[Rev. Mike]

I think Mark has stated his intent was to take money from the majors for demos and use it to record and album but Buzz chose not to believe that, and that he (Mark) was suffering from depression and living in another country which probably led to his alienation from Buzz.