Kevin Rutmanis and The Melvins...

[shits and gigs]

Without FNM, there would be no Bungle. Or Fantomas. Or Melvins on Ipecac.

Think about that for a second before you all bad mouth them. 

bullshit.
Melvins were not influenced by FNM at all.

[John Schuller]

no replaced drums by Mike Bordin on Ozzy Osbourne's epic masterpieces "Blizzard of Ozz" and "Diary of a Madman".

Yeah dude, it was 100% Mike Bordin's idea to convince Ozzy and Sharon to be assholes about sharing their royalties. If he wasn't Ozzy's drummer that whole remix fiasco never would have happened.
I can understand not liking FNM but come on, man.

It would be ok if there was no Fantomas (we already had Naked City)

This, however, I 100% agree with, lol. Fantomas has always just kind of felt like a boring, been-there-done-that Naked City knockoff to me (except Director's Cut, that was kinda cool)

When was the last time you were FORCED to do a job? Fuck Mike Bordin. He should know better.

[LuckMach3]

Without FNM, there would be no Bungle. Or Fantomas. Or Melvins on Ipecac.

Think about that for a second before you all bad mouth them. 

bullshit.
Melvins were not influenced by FNM at all.

If Mike Patton didn't make money from FNM he wouldn't have been able to start Ipecac records.  If that was the case albums like the Ipecac trilogy, H.A.T., POTRE, and others would have likely ended up being as rare and difficult to get as Honky and Electroretard.

*Edit* Actually I already mentioned this in the same thread.  I'm not sure what you aren't understanding.

When was the last time you were FORCED to do a job? Fuck Mike Bordin. He should know better.

Yea, I'm sure you'd turn down a job to play in a band with your hero.

[rictus]

So what about Kevin Rutmanis? Oh, this is a Patton thread. My mistake...



Backs out of thread....

[shits and gigs]

Without FNM, there would be no Bungle. Or Fantomas. Or Melvins on Ipecac.

Think about that for a second before you all bad mouth them. 

bullshit.
Melvins were not influenced by FNM at all.

What if Chuck Berry never strapped on a guitar?
Geez,  your logic is silly.

If Mike Patton didn't make money from FNM he wouldn't have been able to start Ipecac records.  If that was the case albums like the Ipecac trilogy, H.A.T., POTRE, and others would have likely ended up being as rare and difficult to get as Honky and Electroretard.

*Edit* Actually I already mentioned this in the same thread.  I'm not sure what you aren't understanding.

When was the last time you were FORCED to do a job? Fuck Mike Bordin. He should know better.

Yea, I'm sure you'd turn down a job to play in a band with your hero.

[shits and gigs]

Without FNM, there would be no Bungle. Or Fantomas. Or Melvins on Ipecac.

Think about that for a second before you all bad mouth them. 

bullshit.
Melvins were not influenced by FNM at all.

If Mike Patton didn't make money from FNM he wouldn't have been able to start Ipecac records.  If that was the case albums like the Ipecac trilogy, H.A.T., POTRE, and others would have likely ended up being as rare and difficult to get as Honky and Electroretard.

*Edit* Actually I already mentioned this in the same thread.  I'm not sure what you aren't understanding.

When was the last time you were FORCED to do a job? Fuck Mike Bordin. He should know better.

Yea, I'm sure you'd turn down a job to play in a band with your hero.

What if Robert Johnson never strapped on a guitar?  No Zeppelin.
Geez,  your logic is silly.

[LuckMach3]

Without FNM, there would be no Bungle. Or Fantomas. Or Melvins on Ipecac.

Think about that for a second before you all bad mouth them. 

bullshit.
Melvins were not influenced by FNM at all.

If Mike Patton didn't make money from FNM he wouldn't have been able to start Ipecac records.  If that was the case albums like the Ipecac trilogy, H.A.T., POTRE, and others would have likely ended up being as rare and difficult to get as Honky and Electroretard.

*Edit* Actually I already mentioned this in the same thread.  I'm not sure what you aren't understanding.

When was the last time you were FORCED to do a job? Fuck Mike Bordin. He should know better.

Yea, I'm sure you'd turn down a job to play in a band with your hero.

What if Robert Johnson never strapped on a guitar?  No Zeppelin.
Geez,  your logic is silly.

Fact: Without Faith No More The Melvins would not be on Ipecac Records. 

[LuckMach3]

So what about Kevin Rutmanis? Oh, this is a Patton thread. My mistake...



Backs out of thread....

Every thread derails at some point.  Sadly there isn't any news about Kevin doing something with The Melvins.

[shits and gigs]

Without FNM, there would be no Bungle. Or Fantomas. Or Melvins on Ipecac.

Think about that for a second before you all bad mouth them. 

bullshit.
Melvins were not influenced by FNM at all.

If Mike Patton didn't make money from FNM he wouldn't have been able to start Ipecac records.  If that was the case albums like the Ipecac trilogy, H.A.T., POTRE, and others would have likely ended up being as rare and difficult to get as Honky and Electroretard.

*Edit* Actually I already mentioned this in the same thread.  I'm not sure what you aren't understanding.

When was the last time you were FORCED to do a job? Fuck Mike Bordin. He should know better.

Yea, I'm sure you'd turn down a job to play in a band with your hero.

What if Robert Johnson never strapped on a guitar?  No Zeppelin.
Geez,  your logic is silly.

Fact: Without Faith No More The Melvins would not be on Ipecac Records.

If not Ipecac it would have been someone else...

[LuckMach3]

Without FNM, there would be no Bungle. Or Fantomas. Or Melvins on Ipecac.

Think about that for a second before you all bad mouth them. 

bullshit.
Melvins were not influenced by FNM at all.

If Mike Patton didn't make money from FNM he wouldn't have been able to start Ipecac records.  If that was the case albums like the Ipecac trilogy, H.A.T., POTRE, and others would have likely ended up being as rare and difficult to get as Honky and Electroretard.

*Edit* Actually I already mentioned this in the same thread.  I'm not sure what you aren't understanding.

When was the last time you were FORCED to do a job? Fuck Mike Bordin. He should know better.

Yea, I'm sure you'd turn down a job to play in a band with your hero.

What if Robert Johnson never strapped on a guitar?  No Zeppelin.
Geez,  your logic is silly.

Fact: Without Faith No More The Melvins would not be on Ipecac Records.

If not Ipecac it would have been someone else...

Yea like AmRep which released the out of print Honky and Singles 1-12.  Or Man's Ruin that put out the out of print Electroretard.  Chances are they would have ended up on one of those labels.  Just about every album the Melvins put out after the Atlantic years, maybe until the mid 2000's, could have been out of print and extremely difficult to find if not for Ipecac.  I'm happy I didn't have to spend $30 to get a used promo copy of The Maggot.

How are you not understanding this?

[shits and gigs]

Without FNM, there would be no Bungle. Or Fantomas. Or Melvins on Ipecac.

Think about that for a second before you all bad mouth them. 

bullshit.
Melvins were not influenced by FNM at all.

If Mike Patton didn't make money from FNM he wouldn't have been able to start Ipecac records.  If that was the case albums like the Ipecac trilogy, H.A.T., POTRE, and others would have likely ended up being as rare and difficult to get as Honky and Electroretard.

*Edit* Actually I already mentioned this in the same thread.  I'm not sure what you aren't understanding.

When was the last time you were FORCED to do a job? Fuck Mike Bordin. He should know better.

Yea, I'm sure you'd turn down a job to play in a band with your hero.

What if Robert Johnson never strapped on a guitar?  No Zeppelin.
Geez,  your logic is silly.

Fact: Without Faith No More The Melvins would not be on Ipecac Records.

If not Ipecac it would have been someone else...

Yea like AmRep which released the out of print Honky and Singles 1-12.  Or Man's Ruin that put out the out of print Electroretard.  Chances are they would have ended up on one of those labels.  Just about every album the Melvins put out after the Atlantic years, maybe until the mid 2000's, could have been out of print and extremely difficult to find if not for Ipecac.  I'm happy I didn't have to spend $30 to get a used promo copy of The Maggot.

How are you not understanding this?

AMREP and Man's Ruin cannot be compared to Ipecac.  Both far superior in every way...
This I Understand.

[LuckMach3]

AMREP and Man's Ruin cannot be compared to Ipecac.  Both far superior in every way...
This I Understand.

It's not about quality.  It's about keeping the records in print so you don't pay absurd...

Fuck it.  I'm out.  Believe whatever the hell you want.

[Stonergrunge]

AMREP and Man's Ruin cannot be compared to Ipecac.  Both far superior in every way...
This I Understand.

It's not about quality.  It's about keeping the records in print so you don't pay absurd...

Fuck it.  I'm out.  Believe whatever the hell you want.

I agree with you 100%, having to track down out of print stuff SUCKS.

[GiveMe45]

I can't pretend to know the business behind stuff.  I know for a fact that some bigger indie labels were interested in them after they got done with Atlantic and after they did Honky.  I also know that Ipecac was the only label that was ready for them to do three albums in one year (career suicide)

Who knows what would have become of Mr Bungle if FNM never happened for Mike but I'd still be interested in it.  Question is....would Dunn have ever jammed with Melvins?

Fantomas....I got to see them on their very first tour when they would still start a song over if they fucked it up.  Was amazing.  I do love Naked City but I have room in my heart for Fantomas.

Melvins would have found a home but I'm not sure it would have turned out the same.  Someday we'll find away to travel to the alternate universes they are rocking....

[(the) Razor]

I also know that Ipecac was the only label that was ready for them to do three albums in one year (career suicide)

Very interesting if true (wasn't it their first record/s on Ipecac? The risk was even higher for Mike and Greg because at that point I think Fantomas' S/T was the only other release).  Anyway glad it worked out the way it did because those albums are gold - so too is Ipecac. 

Hopefully shits and gigs gets what I meant by now.