Melvins albums starting with a long song

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In a recent interview Buzz said he liked what he had done with Bad Mood Rising and Tarantula Heart in starting both records with a long track. He said he plans to do more of this! I was quite surprised he would devote himself to such a rigid approach given he seems to like to change things up a lot. I'm also not sure what i think about this development.

It is surprising that it has taken 40 years for the band to suddenly start writing long opening tracks. I like what they did with 'Mister Dog...' but i'm not convinced they could keep doing what they did with 'Pain Equals Funny'. I don't think it is very effective to have a long track that doesn't have it's own distinct thing. Something that feels more like a series of different tracks sown together than something more coherent and solid. If the band do continue this trend it seems the songs would fit more into this category than a proper song that just happens to be longer.

Also i'm not sure what to think that from now on Melvins albums may all be within that 5-6 tracks per record form. Who knows, the logical conclusion would seem to be that at some point a new Melvins album will consist or two 19 minute tracks! One song on each side of vinyl.

John Schuller

Eye Flys opens Gluey Porch Treatments (over 6 minutes, longest song on the record)
Boris opens Bullhead (over 8 minutes, longest song on the record)
Hung Bunny/Roman Bird Dog opens Lysol (over 18 minutes, longest song on the record - one might say it is two songs, I would disagree)
They All Must Be Slaughtered opens Honky (over 8 minutes)

Melvins have always done long songs - look at Charmicharmicat, Shevil, Lividity, Roll Another One, The Anti-Vermin Seed, Foaming, The Fool the Meddling Idiot, Pigs of the Roman Empire

I love long songs.

I think Buzz has been digging into his electric Miles Davis albums and understands the power of keeping ones attention for a LONG period of time.

Hell, look at Collossus of Destiny!

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I took note of that in the interviews, too. It's interesting. But I also think it would be dope for the band to do a record of nineteen two-minute songs.

the bloat

QuoteBut I also think it would be dope for the band to do a record of nineteen two-minute songs.

Yes! Great idea! Or maybe a big batch of 19 second songs =D>

thumbmoney

Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 25, 2024, 08:47:05 PMI took note of that in the interviews, too. It's interesting. But I also think it would be dope for the band to do a record of nineteen two-minute songs.
That's right, listening to it will be short and half-hearted. 2 minutes is not enough for a song with full content.

John Schuller

Quote from: thumbmoney on June 02, 2024, 11:20:00 PM
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 25, 2024, 08:47:05 PMI took note of that in the interviews, too. It's interesting. But I also think it would be dope for the band to do a record of nineteen two-minute songs.
That's right, listening to it will be short and half-hearted. 2 minutes is not enough for a song with full content.

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glen

Quote from: John Schuller on April 25, 2024, 03:20:30 PMThey All Must Be Slaughtered opens Honky (over 8 minutes)



one of those moments in MELVINS musical history where it could have went on for 45 minutes and I would have been okay with that.
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Quote from: glen on June 03, 2024, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: John Schuller on April 25, 2024, 03:20:30 PMThey All Must Be Slaughtered opens Honky (over 8 minutes)



one of those moments in MELVINS musical history where it could have went on for 45 minutes and I would have been okay with that.

I was just thinking about that tune..It's spooky.

Infact if anyone has a CD copy they could burn me a copy of? My vinyl and cassette version isn't car playable, and would trade you for a different CD or something.

It's a hard album to find.

Hakal

I find it pretty surprising that Buzz is sticking to the long track opener thing for their albums now. It's a bold choice, but I'm with you on being a bit skeptical. I loved what they did with 'Mister Dog...' but felt 'Pain Equals Funny' was kind of all over the place, like a bunch of different ideas crammed into one track. If they keep going with this approach, I hope they manage to keep it cohesive and not just a mix of random sections. As for fewer tracks per album, it could be cool if it's done right, but it might end up feeling more like a concept experiment rather than a solid album.

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Quote from: Hakal on August 12, 2024, 10:57:38 AMI find it pretty surprising that Buzz is sticking to the long track opener thing for their albums now. It's a bold choice, but I'm with you on being a bit skeptical. I loved what they did with 'Mister Dog...' but felt 'Pain Equals Funny' was kind of all over the place, like a bunch of different ideas crammed into one track. If they keep going with this approach, I hope they manage to keep it cohesive and not just a mix of random sections. As for fewer tracks per album, it could be cool if it's done right, but it might end up feeling more like a concept experiment rather than a solid album.

Hakal, did you ever see them play "Mister Dog" live? Anything strike you about that?

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