are the melvins done for?

[Scuz]

Why is Metallica even being discussed here???    Fuck them.  Fuck their 80s stuff too!!  I wish the rest of em would have died with Cliff Burton.

[anaconda]

thats just dumb. i mean really. wishing death on someone?

[moorst]

Why is Metallica even being discussed here???    Fuck them.  Fuck their 80s stuff too!!  I wish the rest of em would have died with Cliff Burton.

Without Metallica the Melvins would be even more unknown, and perhaps defunct. Metallica opened the mainstream to heavy music, and arguably paved a trail in 1990 that allowed Nirvana their commercial and ideology-altering success a year later. Without the Black album, the music buying public, radio, the mainstream, Etc., would not have so easily accepted Nevermind. No Nevermind = no Atlantic deal for the Melvins. Who knows what would have happened after that? None of us (except for you hardcore MF's out there) might have even heard Houdini, Stoner Witch or Stag (my fav). Where would The Melvins' fanbase be without those albums?

The current popularity of thrash might not even be on the radar without the release of Kill 'em All.

Metallica really blew it with their later albums, but to dismiss their early accomplishments which inspired and opened doors for countless bands based on their recent mistakes is ignorant and infantile.

[GrimReaper]

Athough I question the veracity of your first message on this bbs, I do respect your right to post it. Welcome.

[melvins trashed my room]

Why is Metallica even being discussed here???    Fuck them.  Fuck their 80s stuff too!!  I wish the rest of em would have died with Cliff Burton.

Without Metallica the Melvins would be even more unknown, and perhaps defunct. Metallica opened the mainstream to heavy music, and arguably paved a trail in 1990 that allowed Nirvana their commercial and ideology-altering success a year later. Without the Black album, the music buying public, radio, the mainstream, Etc., would not have so easily accepted Nevermind. No Nevermind = no Atlantic deal for the Melvins. Who knows what would have happened after that? None of us (except for you hardcore MF's out there) might have even heard Houdini, Stoner Witch or Stag (my fav). Where would The Melvins' fanbase be without those albums?

The current popularity of thrash might not even be on the radar without the release of Kill 'em All.

Metallica really blew it with their later albums, but to dismiss their early accomplishments which inspired and opened doors for countless bands based on their recent mistakes is ignorant and infantile.

the more unknown they are the better, i say.

[Anonymous]

Athough I question the veracity of your first message on this bbs, I do respect your right to post it. Welcome.

Yeah, it was a bit much for a first shot. Though not unwarranted. After reading a lot more posts, it seems there's quite an ironic sense of humor here, which is cool. Thanks for the welcome.

[moorst]

Um... that was me.

[Grindfag]

My first post here, and I'm gonna try starting with something different than the ever common  "Hi, I'm new here" thread:

Why is Metallica even being discussed here???    Fuck them.  Fuck their 80s stuff too!!  I wish the rest of em would have died with Cliff Burton.

Without Metallica the Melvins would be even more unknown, and perhaps defunct. Metallica opened the mainstream to heavy music, and arguably paved a trail in 1990 that allowed Nirvana their commercial and ideology-altering success a year later. Without the Black album, the music buying public, radio, the mainstream, Etc., would not have so easily accepted Nevermind. No Nevermind = no Atlantic deal for the Melvins. Who knows what would have happened after that? None of us (except for you hardcore MF's out there) might have even heard Houdini, Stoner Witch or Stag (my fav). Where would The Melvins' fanbase be without those albums?

The current popularity of thrash might not even be on the radar without the release of Kill 'em All.

Metallica really blew it with their later albums, but to dismiss their early accomplishments which inspired and opened doors for countless bands based on their recent mistakes is ignorant and infantile.

I half agree and half disagree. I still think it's debatable whether the success of Metallica would have/had paved the way for The Melvins and Nirvana. They might have had something to do with it, but it's kinda tough to affirm that, imo.

If anything, they (Melvins/Nirvana and Metallica) were playing two different genres back then, thrash metal was doing its own thing and grunge was going on a somewhat complete direction...I'm not saying one didn't affect the other, I just think it's not as safe to assume thrash helped grunge and without it (thrash), there would be no grunge at all.

Sorry to butt in, I just felt like adding my two pesos. Heh.

[moorst]

I half agree and half disagree. I still think it's debatable whether the success of Metallica would have/had paved the way for The Melvins and Nirvana. They might have had something to do with it, but it's kinda tough to affirm that, imo.

If anything, they (Melvins/Nirvana and Metallica) were playing two different genres back then, thrash metal was doing its own thing and grunge was going on a somewhat complete direction...I'm not saying one didn't affect the other, I just think it's not as safe to assume thrash helped grunge and without it (thrash), there would be no grunge at all.

Sorry to butt in, I just felt like adding my two pesos. Heh.

That's cool. I agree that it's debatable. But I also think that heavy music worked it's way into the mainstrem by degrees. The Black Album isn't really even the one that created the momentum, it's just the one that sold the most. Master and Justice really paved the way for albums like Nevermind, The Downward Spiral and Aenima to do well commercially. Nirvana was heavier than anything before it that sold 8 million albums, even though it was essentially a punk record. I agree that thrash, metal and grunge were all doing separate things at the time, but it always takes one to get the rest through.

[Beto Brasil]

Why is Metallica even being discussed here???    Fuck them.  Fuck their 80s stuff too!!  I wish the rest of em would have died with Cliff Burton.

Metallica?who is? a aeroplane?shit....

[musicismyradar]

Oh the days of the old and ignorant...

[Metalhead Cow]

Man, 2003 feels like a long time ago

[rictus]

Man, 2003 feels like a long time ago

Almost feels like ten years.

[Mints]

Man, 2003 feels like a long time ago

Almost feels like ten years.

Yeah, back when musicismyradar was five. Kind of makes me wonder what he meant by this:

"Oh the days of the old and ignorant..."

[musicismyradar]

Yeah, back when musicismyradar was five. Kind of makes me wonder what he meant by this:
"Oh the days of the old and ignorant..."

It's an odd phrasing, and I meant that this was old, and that the forum's author was ignorant, at least at the time.