:?
I don't even know where to start.
I'll start with the good. The Melvins had a great set.
POTRE
Talking Horse
Bloated Pope
Dog Island
Dies Irae
Billy Fish
Mr DNA
Anaconda
Zodiac
The Kicking Machine
Civilized drums into Blood Witch
Night Goat
Smiling Cobra
Pretty sure that's how it went.
EDIT**
Maybe it was Civilized drums into Night Goat......I remember Jared playing the bass line with weird drums at the beginning....
They were louder than normal for that venue. Down fans seemed really into them which was cool......
Now.....lets talk about Down fans.
People on here have been bitching about this tour for weeks. And bitching about the fans. I kept quiet mostly, waiting to see how it turned out. Secretly, I was a bit sceptical, but I wanted to see if it was as bad as people thought it would be.
It was. It really was.
Except for the Melvins (which I almost didn't get to see, reason coming)the show was awful. A. W. F. U. Fucking L. AWFUL. I haven't swung at someone since I was 9 years old. Twenty four years have passed since I've had to punch, or try to punch someone. I came very close to breaking that streak tonight. The guy next to me and my girlfriend spilled drinks on us, kept elbowing and kneeing her, and after she complained to him, he told her to fuck off. If we were on the floor, and not in the balcony, I can understand. But we were in seats. She didn't tell me he had told her to fuck off until we left. Which is why I almost didn't get to see the Melvins. There was also the usual cock screaming "DDOOOOOOoWWWWWNNNNN" between every other bands song, guys throwing beer ( one of which hit me in the back of the head, soaking my hair and back ) and other general retardation from this group. I really cannot explain how fucked this crowd was. Most of them anyway. Like I said, the Melvins got a good reception, and the kicked ass, but the Down fans ruined the show for us. I know they're not all like that, but from what I saw, at least 70% of them are. So be warned fellow fans, clutching your tickets for the Melvins/Down tour.......I'd bet a paycheck one of you gets in a fight at one of the shows, and it won't be your fault.
So good luck.
As far as Weedeater and Donava? Dovana?....whatever.......I liked Weedeater. Dovnananbanna was good. Anselmo came out for their last song, a Sabbath cover. Phil had the lyrics in his hand :)
I'll put some pics up soon....Gotta see if they turned out. And I did film with my camera, but it's a seven year old digital, so we'll see if they turn out ok.....I just filmed Bloated Pope and Anaconda.....hope they're decent enough to share.
Oh, and I couldn't film ( with my camcorder). A friend at the Roseland told me Down wasn't allowing it. So I got to enjoy a Melvins show without the camera.......To bad though, I had killer seats, except for the cockbite sitting next to us. I hope he got thrown out and hit by a truck.
It was a last minute deal but I got a ticket. I'm on vacation for a couple of weeks from law school and was happy to finally see a show, my first since 12/30/06. I saw Weedeater open for Monster Magnet back in 05....Nothing has changed. OK doom riffs, but when the bassist opens his mouth to do his evil doom vocals, i collapse in a heap of giggles. Danava KICKED ASS. I've never heard of these guys. They reminded me of a heavier Captain Beyond with long space jams.....very very cool.
Melvins kicked ass, of course. First time I've seen any of the NwB stuff live. It's not my favorite stuff but I appreciate it more live, especially Dog Island and Dies Irea, which were both highlights. It was nice to see Zodiac and Anaconda, both blistering versions.
Pigs of the Roman Empire
The Talking Horse
The Bloated Pope
Dog Island
Dies Iraea
Billy Fish
Anaconda
Zodiac
The Kicking Machine
Civilized Worm (tease)
The Smiling Cobra
Night Goat
We didn't stay for Down. The first album is a classic, but I just didn't care. Not my favorite show, but that always seems to be the case when the Melvins open for someone else (Tomahawk, Tool...Exception: Helmet '97). It's just an opening band vibe that's hard to shake. I felt like a real rebel in my khaki shorts and polo shirt amongst the masses. Dull tattoo rebellion. Most of the guys had the same black Down shirts, stupid tattoos and dumbass beards. The chicks all had the same tramp stamps and lame piercings. I wept internally at the state of rock and roll and felt an intense craving to listen to Jerry Lee Lewis live at the Star Club. Plus, I don't know if its Down policy or Roseland policy, but I got in trouble for taking a pic with my camera phone and calling a friend during Night Goat who couldn't make it. Maybe cell phone bootlegs are cutting into Phil Anselmo's bottom line.
*Edit* Mods can move this to Idle's thread.
Ok, so the video is just a blob of pixels with mildy decent sound, so I'm not going to even try to post that.....but I got some okay pics. Notice anything wrong in the first one?
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/idlehanz/DSC00076.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/idlehanz/DSC00044.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/idlehanz/DSC00095.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/idlehanz/DSC00081.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/idlehanz/DSC00078.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/idlehanz/DSC00069.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/idlehanz/DSC00067.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/idlehanz/DSC00066.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/idlehanz/DSC00065.jpg)
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q90/idlehanz/DSC00047.jpg)
They really are cockbites. I tried. I really did.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 01:27:04 AM
the Down fans ruined the show for us. I know they're not all like that, but from what I saw, at least 70% of them are.
:lol: So it turns out the complaints were justified after all? On the plus side that setlist sounds fucking awesome and worth the effort to get there. Sorry that guy nearly ruined your time.
....but I do still wish they'd play some Maggot and H.A.T. songs....
One question, did they play Civilized Worm or is it just a drum solo?
Quote from: seas of luck on August 13, 2009, 02:30:59 AM
One question, did they play Civilized Worm or is it just a drum solo?
Just the drum intro......
Quote from: blacksanta on August 13, 2009, 01:48:13 AM
Most of the guys had the same black Down shirts, stupid tattoos and dumbass beards. The chicks all had the same tramp stamps and lame piercings. I wept internally at the state of rock and roll and felt an intense craving to listen to Jerry Lee Lewis live at the Star Club. Plus, I don't know if its Down policy or Roseland policy, but I got in trouble for taking a pic with my camera phone and calling a friend during Night Goat who couldn't make it.
I could not agree more...Santa is not lying.......Almost every one of them in Down shirts anbd spikes and leather and lots of talk about how drunk they were and how awesome the latest Rockfest cockfest was here in Portland.
When I was taking pics, a security guard told me not to take anymore video. Uh..............I was taking pictures. This was well after I took the vid of a few songs......at least 15 minutes later. It was fucking retarded. Did Phil not want us to see him have to bring out a lyric sheet to a Sabbath song? And where was this cocksmoker when the buttplug next to us was starting shit?
It was Down policy Santa. I've been filming there for almost three years now. NEVER had a single problem. Just filmed Sonic Youth there on July 28.....Not a word from security.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 01:27:04 AM
As far as Weedeater and Donava? Dovana?....whatever.......I liked Weedeater. Dovnananbanna was good. Anselmo came out for their last song, a Sabbath cover. Phil had the lyrics in his hand :)
:lol:
what sabbath song did
danava cover?
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 02:56:39 AM
Quote from: blacksanta on August 13, 2009, 01:48:13 AM
Most of the guys had the same black Down shirts, stupid tattoos and dumbass beards. The chicks all had the same tramp stamps and lame piercings. I wept internally at the state of rock and roll and felt an intense craving to listen to Jerry Lee Lewis live at the Star Club. Plus, I don't know if its Down policy or Roseland policy, but I got in trouble for taking a pic with my camera phone and calling a friend during Night Goat who couldn't make it.
I could not agree more...Santa is not lying.......Almost every one of them in Down shirts anbd spikes and leather and lots of talk about how drunk they were and how awesome the latest Rockfest cockfest was here in Portland.
When I was taking pics, a security guard told me not to take anymore video. Uh..............I was taking pictures. This was well after I took the vid of a few songs......at least 15 minutes later. It was fucking retarded. Did Phil not want us to see him have to bring out a lyric sheet to a Sabbath song? And where was this cocksmoker when the buttplug next to us was starting shit?
It was Down policy Santa. I've been filming there for almost three years now. NEVER had a single problem. Just filmed Sonic Youth there on July 28.....Not a word from security.
Word. I thought it was Down policy. The vibe from Buzzo was "I know you geeks are out there, but lets reach these "metalcore fucks"! Again, I think Down's first album, NOLA, is good times. But that was back in 1996. I have to say this tho. This Danava band really made me a happy guy. It's SO RARE when a local band ``````````````blows my ass away into another teepee. First....they know how to play mean 70's riffs that dont involve power chords. PLUS they look like my uncles and older cousins, out there in Washougal when we danced like primitives. Any drummer with a pony tail and mustache that looks like that and just happens to have a hawk wing tattooo??????? he must have grown up at the portland speedway waiting for fast freddy miles to eat the competition before the limited sportsmen.....sorry, all i can say is that band kicked ass. my ounce of respect I had for Phil increased when he came out to jam with them. All of a sudden the crowd liked a band that they were calling fags a minute before. Too bad I cared not a lick for down.
:lol:
has anybody checked what down fans are saying about MELVINS offerings at their little message board?
i can vouch about the down fans!!! TOTAL JACK ASSES!!! melvins and weedeater wer way cool! i stayed for down cause a friend that was with me didnt want to leave and he rode with me... thats why i hate givin people rides to concerts.. Danger Erin from Jackass was there. I hung out with him for quite awhile.. It seemed to me that the melvins had a bigger mosh pit going when they played than when down was playing from what i saw! It was nice to go to portland and see the melvins at some place besides the showbox. the melvins set seemed short.. goin to bed.
Quote from: glen on August 13, 2009, 04:32:32 AM
has anybody checked what down fans are saying about MELVINS offerings at their little message board?
Are they saying something? I just glanced at their board for a few minutes and couldn't find anything.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 01:59:06 AM
..... I got some okay pics. Notice anything wrong in the first one?
What am I missing? Do tell.
Quote from: anaconda on August 13, 2009, 06:39:37 AM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 01:59:06 AM
..... I got some okay pics. Notice anything wrong in the first one?
What am I missing? Do tell.
maybe hanz meant buzz and jared switched places? (not that there's anything wrong with that)
Ya? I've seen Buzz stage left, stage right, centre stage. I think it all
depends on the monitors, how the next band's gear is setup, etc.
Though he generally is stage right isn't he.
yeah, he's usually on dale's side with the tandem, if possible.
hanz, don't keep us waiting any longer! :o
who knows. I've seen him work both sides of the same club for years now.
i could be wrong but i remember Buzz standing on Coady's side mostly with the BB line up.wondering what Idle meant to say :?
Maybe he meant the big Down banner behind them. :)
Or the guy with the camera/video recorder?
Rictus wins.....the guy had a camera, not a camcorder. There was a girl with a vid pass filming but I doubt we'll ever see it.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 10:55:45 AM
Rictus wins.....the guy had a camera, not a camcorder. There was a girl with a vid pass filming but I doubt we'll ever see it.
it was bUTTHOLE, but I still think mine was right. :)
Maybe they would've let you film if you had a Down shirt on and a tribal tattoo.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 01:27:04 AM
Anselmo came out for their last song, a Sabbath cover. Phil had the lyrics in his hand :)
Maybe it'd be better if Phil had a teleprompter for lyrics when he's singing covers of classic bands. Because having the lyrics on a sheet of paper in your hand while performing is just.... I mean........ c' mon.
Down doing "Dazed and Confused":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umFbJTYPKq8
Ah....oops. Hard to tell when checking the board from a phone.
Quote from: Bitches of Copacabana on August 13, 2009, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 01:27:04 AM
Anselmo came out for their last song, a Sabbath cover. Phil had the lyrics in his hand :)
Maybe it'd be better if Phil had a teleprompter for lyrics when he's singing covers of classic bands. Because having the lyrics on a sheet of paper in your hand while performing is just.... I mean........ c' mon.
Down doing "Dazed and Confused":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umFbJTYPKq8
Wow, so that wasn't just a one time thing. Maybe he just shouldn't do covers, that sounded horrible.
Quote from: Dc on August 13, 2009, 02:24:29 AM
They really are cockbites. I tried. I really did.
its true. some fucker slapped my camera outta my hand after we had a slight shoving match. thay dude ended up getting it, i think (hope). security guards got is for me though. after thinking about it for a day or two. i hate down, what their about, and their god damn fans. FUCK YOU INSANE DOWN FANS IF YOUR READING THIS. eat my ass
Quote from: rictus on August 13, 2009, 11:07:32 AM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 10:55:45 AM
Rictus wins.....the guy had a camera, not a camcorder. There was a girl with a vid pass filming but I doubt we'll ever see it.
it was bUTTHOLE, but I still think mine was right. :)
Maybe they would've let you film if you had a Down shirt on and a tribal tattoo.
I got all confused looking at this board on my phone. I was speaking of the Down banner behind them, not the camera guy. Just so weird to see them playing in front of it.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 04:33:34 PM
Quote from: rictus on August 13, 2009, 11:07:32 AM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 10:55:45 AM
Rictus wins.....the guy had a camera, not a camcorder. There was a girl with a vid pass filming but I doubt we'll ever see it.
it was bUTTHOLE, but I still think mine was right. :)
Maybe they would've let you film if you had a Down shirt on and a tribal tattoo.
I got all confused looking at this board on my phone. I was speaking of the Down banner behind them, not the camera guy. Just so weird to see them playing in front of it.
So I
was correct! I thought you meant the camera from the rest of your response. Also, I'm not used to being right, about anything.
Quote from: anaconda on August 13, 2009, 08:02:32 AM
Ya? I've seen Buzz stage left, stage right, centre stage. I think it all
depends on the monitors, how the next band's gear is setup, etc.
Though he generally is stage right isn't he.
Quote from: norecess on August 13, 2009, 08:14:30 AM
yeah, he's usually on dale's side with the tandem, if possible.
hanz, don't keep us waiting any longer! :o
That would be stage left. If he's to your right it's stage left. That refers to the perspective of the person on stage.
I'm actually really glad I skipped the Seattle Melvins show. I can't believe I'm typing this, but man it sounds like the DOWN-holes really lived up to all expectations and then some. I think had I gone it would've ruined the Melvins-high that I'm still on from the 25th Anniversary show. I just wish they'd done a headlining show in Seattle. I don't know why they couldn't have on Monday night. They were already in town. All that said though, it almost would've been worth it to see them play POTRE in front of the meat heads. Did they really play the whole 22 minutes of it? Love that song.
Quote from: Like Stee on August 13, 2009, 06:58:18 PM
All that said though, it almost would've been worth it to see them play POTRE in front of the meat heads. Did they really play the whole 22 minutes of it? Love that song.
That's what I was wondering...
No....POTRE went maybe 5 or 6 minutes....maybe 7. Still......it was HEAVY. Very nice.
What other details?
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 08:05:13 PM
No....POTRE went maybe 5 or 6 minutes....maybe 7. Still......it was HEAVY. Very nice.
What other details?
Was there any banter with the crowd? Or did they just come out and play?
How much were the tickets, $35.00 - 40.00 range?
I think the tix were $25? Maybe $30? I really don't remember.
Before Anaconda Buzz said it was "nice to be back in the Northwest, the scene of the crime." That was about it I think.
Nice, thanks
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 08:05:13 PM
What other details?
I was just wondering why he skipped the Seattle show. Thought maybe
there was a back story to his post.
Quote from: blacksanta on August 13, 2009, 01:48:13 AM
Plus, I don't know if its Down policy or Roseland policy, but I got in trouble for taking a pic with my camera phone and calling a friend during Night Goat who couldn't make it.
IT'S A VENUE POLICY, IF THEY ENFORCE IT. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE TAKEN PICS AT DOWN SHOWS, AND HOW MANY CAMERAS I SEE.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 02:56:39 AM
It was Down policy Santa. I've been filming there for almost three years now. NEVER had a single problem.
I'VE BEEN GOING TO DOWN SHOWS FOR SEVEN YEARS. I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH CAMERAS OR SEEN ANYONE GET IN TROUBLE FOR THEM. THERE'S VIDS ON YOUTUBE OF VIRTUALLY ALL THEIR SHOWS. BUT IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO JUST ASSUME IT WAS A BAND'S FAULT YOU DIDN'T LIKE, CARRY ON. :-({|=
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 13, 2009, 10:51:58 PM
Quote from: blacksanta on August 13, 2009, 01:48:13 AM
Plus, I don't know if its Down policy or Roseland policy, but I got in trouble for taking a pic with my camera phone and calling a friend during Night Goat who couldn't make it.
IT'S A VENUE POLICY, IF THEY ENFORCE IT. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE TAKEN PICS AT DOWN SHOWS, AND HOW MANY CAMERAS I SEE.
Hey retard, he's filmed there before with no problems. By deduction, that would indicate that one of the bands has a problem with filming, and we know it's not the Melvins.
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 13, 2009, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 02:56:39 AM
It was Down policy Santa. I've been filming there for almost three years now. NEVER had a single problem.
I'VE BEEN GOING TO DOWN SHOWS FOR SEVEN YEARS. I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH CAMERAS OR SEEN ANYONE GET IN TROUBLE FOR THEM. THERE'S VIDS ON YOUTUBE OF VIRTUALLY ALL THEIR SHOWS. BUT IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO JUST ASSUME IT WAS A BAND'S FAULT YOU DIDN'T LIKE, CARRY ON. :-({|=
I know for a fact it was. Two different sources. One close to the band, and one with the venue. There isn't an ounce of assumption in my post.
Quote from: MeddlingCrybaby on August 13, 2009, 11:25:18 PM
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 13, 2009, 10:51:58 PM
Quote from: blacksanta on August 13, 2009, 01:48:13 AM
Plus, I don't know if its Down policy or Roseland policy, but I got in trouble for taking a pic with my camera phone and calling a friend during Night Goat who couldn't make it.
IT'S A VENUE POLICY, IF THEY ENFORCE IT. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE TAKEN PICS AT DOWN SHOWS, AND HOW MANY CAMERAS I SEE.
Hey retard, he's filmed there before with no problems. By deduction, that would indicate that one of the bands has a problem with filming, and we know it's not the Melvins.
WOW. NAME-CALLING. YOUR SCREEN NAME IS FITTING.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 11:29:43 PM
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 13, 2009, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 02:56:39 AM
It was Down policy Santa. I've been filming there for almost three years now. NEVER had a single problem.
I'VE BEEN GOING TO DOWN SHOWS FOR SEVEN YEARS. I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH CAMERAS OR SEEN ANYONE GET IN TROUBLE FOR THEM. THERE'S VIDS ON YOUTUBE OF VIRTUALLY ALL THEIR SHOWS. BUT IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO JUST ASSUME IT WAS A BAND'S FAULT YOU DIDN'T LIKE, CARRY ON. :-({|=
I know for a fact it was. Two different sources. One close to the band, and one with the venue. There isn't an ounce of assumption in my post.
WELL THEN, YOU HAVE YOUR SOURCES. MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES. I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT WRONG. 8)
Apology NOT accepted, asshole.
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 13, 2009, 11:32:25 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 11:29:43 PM
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 13, 2009, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 02:56:39 AM
It was Down policy Santa. I've been filming there for almost three years now. NEVER had a single problem.
I'VE BEEN GOING TO DOWN SHOWS FOR SEVEN YEARS. I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH CAMERAS OR SEEN ANYONE GET IN TROUBLE FOR THEM. THERE'S VIDS ON YOUTUBE OF VIRTUALLY ALL THEIR SHOWS. BUT IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO JUST ASSUME IT WAS A BAND'S FAULT YOU DIDN'T LIKE, CARRY ON. :-({|=
I know for a fact it was. Two different sources. One close to the band, and one with the venue. There isn't an ounce of assumption in my post.
WELL THEN, YOU HAVE YOUR SOURCES. MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES. I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT WRONG. 8)
I'm sure of it too.
Quote from: MeddlingCrybaby on August 13, 2009, 11:34:25 PM
Apology NOT accepted, asshole.
YOU'RE AN ANGRY ONE. YOU MUST BE ONE OF THOSE "70% OF DOWN FANS" A FEW HERE KEEP ALLUDING TO. :-k
someones a little defensive. bigfail, just admit it, down fan is a fucktard.
Quote from: FART LIPS on August 13, 2009, 11:44:37 PM
someones a little defensive. bigfail, just admit it, down fan is a fucktard.
EVERY BAND HAS IDIOT FANS.
EVERY CONCERT HAS IDIOT FANS.
EVERY CITY HAS IDIOT FANS.
THE WORLD KEEPS TURNING. :wink:
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 11:36:10 PM
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 13, 2009, 11:32:25 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 11:29:43 PM
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 13, 2009, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 02:56:39 AM
It was Down policy Santa. I've been filming there for almost three years now. NEVER had a single problem.
I'VE BEEN GOING TO DOWN SHOWS FOR SEVEN YEARS. I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH CAMERAS OR SEEN ANYONE GET IN TROUBLE FOR THEM. THERE'S VIDS ON YOUTUBE OF VIRTUALLY ALL THEIR SHOWS. BUT IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO JUST ASSUME IT WAS A BAND'S FAULT YOU DIDN'T LIKE, CARRY ON. :-({|=
I know for a fact it was. Two different sources. One close to the band, and one with the venue. There isn't an ounce of assumption in my post.
WELL THEN, YOU HAVE YOUR SOURCES. MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES. I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT WRONG. 8)
I'm sure of it too.
YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE THAT DOWN CONTROLS POLICY FOR THE MELVINS TOO. [-X
Adam, go back to the Down board now.
Quote from: Bitches of Copacabana on August 13, 2009, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 01:27:04 AM
Anselmo came out for their last song, a Sabbath cover. Phil had the lyrics in his hand :)
Maybe it'd be better if Phil had a teleprompter for lyrics when he's singing covers of classic bands. Because having the lyrics on a sheet of paper in your hand while performing is just.... I mean........ c' mon.
Down doing "Dazed and Confused":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umFbJTYPKq8
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I don`t think there`s anything wrong with the IQ on Down fans versus other, but there`s no doubt that the behaviour of the singer influences the behaviour of the crowd. "Everything is a allowed, cause our leader gives a total fuck and he`s stoned!". Melvins has a presence that dictates the crowd in another way, to be calmer and more observating, although their music is ten times more brutal that Downs.
Schnab, sociologist for a second.
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 14, 2009, 12:09:47 AM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 11:36:10 PM
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 13, 2009, 11:32:25 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 11:29:43 PM
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 13, 2009, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 13, 2009, 02:56:39 AM
It was Down policy Santa. I've been filming there for almost three years now. NEVER had a single problem.
I'VE BEEN GOING TO DOWN SHOWS FOR SEVEN YEARS. I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH CAMERAS OR SEEN ANYONE GET IN TROUBLE FOR THEM. THERE'S VIDS ON YOUTUBE OF VIRTUALLY ALL THEIR SHOWS. BUT IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO JUST ASSUME IT WAS A BAND'S FAULT YOU DIDN'T LIKE, CARRY ON. :-({|=
I know for a fact it was. Two different sources. One close to the band, and one with the venue. There isn't an ounce of assumption in my post.
WELL THEN, YOU HAVE YOUR SOURCES. MY SINCEREST APOLOGIES. I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT WRONG. 8)
I'm sure of it too.
YEAH, IT MAKES SENSE THAT DOWN CONTROLS POLICY FOR THE MELVINS TOO. [-X
Yes, it does. You think if I said, "Oh, I promise only to film the Melvins" they'd believe it? I don't need to defend myself anymore, especially to someone who, like most of the people at the show, is looking for a fight.
Quote from: Schnabster on August 14, 2009, 02:39:39 AM
I don`t think there`s anything wrong with the IQ on Down fans versus other, but there`s no doubt that the behaviour of the singer influences the behaviour of the crowd.
then how do you explain all the crazy old bitches throwing underwear at tom jones?
Quote from: norecess on August 14, 2009, 08:45:12 AM
Quote from: Schnabster on August 14, 2009, 02:39:39 AM
I don`t think there`s anything wrong with the IQ on Down fans versus other, but there`s no doubt that the behaviour of the singer influences the behaviour of the crowd.
then how do you explain all the crazy old bitches throwing underwear at tom jones?
:lol: :lol:
I think he just did. Have you ever seen Tom Jones' behavior on stage?
Quote from: rictus on August 14, 2009, 10:00:29 AM
I think he just did. Have you ever seen Tom Jones' behavior on stage?
like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2lD27jFvfs
(song credits go to joe tex)
Quote from: norecess on August 14, 2009, 10:04:49 AM
Quote from: rictus on August 14, 2009, 10:00:29 AM
I think he just did. Have you ever seen Tom Jones' behavior on stage?
like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2lD27jFvfs
(song credits go to joe tex)
Exactly! How could you
not want to throw panties at that? I almost just threw mine at my monitor.
WOW. A DELETED POST. I'D LIKE TO SAY I'M SURPRISED BUT WE ALL KNOW THERE'S SOMEONE ON A POWER TRIP UP IN HERE. :-({|=
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 13, 2009, 11:52:32 PM
EVERY BAND HAS IDIOT FANS.
EVERY CONCERT HAS IDIOT FANS.
EVERY CITY HAS IDIOT FANS.
THE WORLD KEEPS TURNING. :wink:
So true. I've met lots of assholes at Melvins shows. There are probably even assholes at Sheryl Crow shows. Not every band has the SAME AMOUNT of dipshit fans though, and it seems that Down has an extremely high percentage.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 14, 2009, 08:37:51 AM...someone who, like most of the people at the show, is looking for a fight.
Exactly. :cheers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
Don't let Bigphil get you all pissed off Idlehanz....It's my job to get all crazy & pissed off at these douche-tards.
Soooo, FUCK YOU BIGPHIL, YOU DUMBFUCK DOUCHE-TASTIC CROMAGNON KNUCKLE DRAGGER...and fuck Down fans. :P
WHAT'S WITH THE CAPS? THAT'S MY JOB. 8)
Quote from: norecess on August 14, 2009, 10:04:49 AM
Quote from: rictus on August 14, 2009, 10:00:29 AM
I think he just did. Have you ever seen Tom Jones' behavior on stage?
like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2lD27jFvfs
(song credits go to joe tex)
This is videos you do not show your gal, cause he has moves other men just can dream about. The welsh bull!!! :lol:
yknow out of all the gigs ive seen in a few different countries, and ive seen more than i want to musicaly as i work in the industry... i dont think ive ever seen a fight or even a dispute.
sounds like america with the problem, im thinking in other countries people go to a show to enjoy it.
Quote from: >>>JZS<<< on August 14, 2009, 02:48:59 PM
Don't let Bigphil get you all pissed off Idlehanz....
I'm not pissed at all. I know I'm right, and I'm good with that. There's people on here I can take seriously, and there's people I can't. Bigfil is someone who's posts mean very little to me. End of story.
Unless of course he's someone's alter-ego, like our friend Juan......then it's the attitude that means very little to me.
Quote from: dijk cheese on August 14, 2009, 04:03:00 PM
yknow out of all the gigs ive seen in a few different countries, and ive seen more than i want to musicaly as i work in the industry... i dont think ive ever seen a fight or even a dispute.
sounds like america with the problem, im thinking in other countries people go to a show to enjoy it.
You could be on to something. I've only attended the one festival overseas, and over three days, I don't think I saw an arguement, much less a fight.
I can only remember two shows in the states that I've seen fights at. White Zombie and Down. I think it has a lot to do with the fanbase. Granted some people come to shows so fucked up that all they do is look for a fight, and that can happen almost anywhere, but I believe the fanbase is the major reason.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 14, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
Quote from: dijk cheese on August 14, 2009, 04:03:00 PM
yknow out of all the gigs ive seen in a few different countries, and ive seen more than i want to musicaly as i work in the industry... i dont think ive ever seen a fight or even a dispute.
sounds like america with the problem, im thinking in other countries people go to a show to enjoy it.
You could be on to something. I've only attended the one festival overseas, and over three days, I don't think I saw an arguement, much less a fight.
from what i've heard from americans, the european crowd is definitely milder, but the atp crowd is a group of music fans, same thing at roadburn, even if it's five days you won't see a fight there. it's different though at shows where people don't necessarily go for the music, but rather for entertainment/drinking purposes and then they don't know how to behave.
i was at a gwar show a few weeks ago and there were a lot of drunk morons. gwar is the one exception that i'd go see pure for fun, they simply put on a hell of a show and you'll get entertained big time. like monotonix, but different ;)
one band that always has fights at their shows that i've seen is High On Fire.
Quote from: IrvingtonFoster on August 14, 2009, 05:16:42 PM
one band that always has fights at their shows that i've seen is High On Fire.
Oh good.....Gonna see them in a few weeks, I believe at the same venue. Can't wait for that.
Quote from: norecess on August 14, 2009, 05:13:12 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 14, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
Quote from: dijk cheese on August 14, 2009, 04:03:00 PM
yknow out of all the gigs ive seen in a few different countries, and ive seen more than i want to musicaly as i work in the industry... i dont think ive ever seen a fight or even a dispute.
sounds like america with the problem, im thinking in other countries people go to a show to enjoy it.
You could be on to something. I've only attended the one festival overseas, and over three days, I don't think I saw an arguement, much less a fight.
from what i've heard from americans, the european crowd is definitely milder, but the atp crowd is a group of music fans, same thing at roadburn, even if it's five days you won't see a fight there. it's different though at shows where people don't necessarily go for the music, but rather for entertainment/drinking purposes and then they don't know how to behave.
i was at a gwar show a few weeks ago and there were a lot of drunk morons. gwar is the one exception that i'd go see pure for fun, they simply put on a hell of a show and you'll get entertained big time. like monotonix, but different ;)
Word up on Gwar. They've never been exactly musical powerhouses, but their live shows are something not to be missed. Spike TV take notice -- they'd be just about the perfect house band for any show you put on.
As for fights, G, spunk and I used to hit a lot of scary little clubs in and around Detroit when a) we were too young to be doing so and b) the skinhead thing was in full effect. Take Detroit and skinheads and you can see where this leads. I've seen plenty of fights and shoving matches at shows over the years, but rarely did they get out of control, despite the overly hostile environment. Granted, I was like 16 for most of them, so I'm sure I was given a free pass, but I never saw any brutal violence or anything... which is surprising when you mix the murder capital of the US with a counter culture built on hatred (jesus, what was my mom thinking, letting me go??).
The only fight I've been in since 5th grade happened to be at a Primus concert of all things. I know many have stated it here multiple times, but there are idiots at every show. I'll bet if I was a large enough meathead, I could get punched watching Paul Anka play.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 14, 2009, 05:31:27 PM
Quote from: IrvingtonFoster on August 14, 2009, 05:16:42 PM
one band that always has fights at their shows that i've seen is High On Fire.
Oh good.....Gonna see them in a few weeks, I believe at the same venue. Can't wait for that.
yea i don't know if their shows are just like that in the Bay Area or what, it never really bothers me, i just ignore the assholes and have a good time, but then again no one's ever really bumped into me too hard or tried to start shit like you mentioned happened to you at this Down show.
I've been to five High on Fire shows and have never seen a fight.
I've never seen a fight at a HOF show. But yeah, what Danny said. I've seen my fair share of fights at shows, but nothing too out of control. The craziest show was the Quicksand, Helmet, Rage Against the Machine show back in the day. The first note that Rage played sent the crowd into a frenzy. Fists and beers flying, but it calmed down (a little) after that first song.
With the prices of beer these days, I don't know why anyone would waste a beer like that.
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 14, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
I can only remember two shows in the states that I've seen fights at. White Zombie and Down. I think it has a lot to do with the fanbase. Granted some people come to shows so fucked up that all they do is look for a fight, and that can happen almost anywhere, but I believe the fanbase is the major reason.
REALLY? MAN, I'M BETTING THAT I'VE SEEN MORE FIGHTS AS OPPOSED TO NOT SEEING THEM AT MOST SHOWS I'VE BEEN TO. :-k
I SAW A FIGHT AT A JOE SATRIANI CONCERT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. :lol:
Quote from: Dr.Benway on August 18, 2009, 02:01:34 PM
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 18, 2009, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 14, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
I can only remember two shows in the states that I've seen fights at. White Zombie and Down. I think it has a lot to do with the fanbase. Granted some people come to shows so fucked up that all they do is look for a fight, and that can happen almost anywhere, but I believe the fanbase is the major reason.
REALLY? MAN, I'M BETTING THAT I'VE SEEN MORE FIGHTS AS OPPOSED TO NOT SEEING THEM AT MOST SHOWS I'VE BEEN TO. :-k
I SAW A FIGHT AT A JOE SATRIANI CONCERT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. :lol:
JOE SATRIANI CONCERT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
Wasn't that Steve Vai?
arent satriani and vai the same person? i always thought vai was satriani with a wig on.
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 18, 2009, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 14, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
I can only remember two shows in the states that I've seen fights at. White Zombie and Down. I think it has a lot to do with the fanbase. Granted some people come to shows so fucked up that all they do is look for a fight, and that can happen almost anywhere, but I believe the fanbase is the major reason.
REALLY? MAN, I'M BETTING THAT I'VE SEEN MORE FIGHTS AS OPPOSED TO NOT SEEING THEM AT MOST SHOWS I'VE BEEN TO. :-k
I SAW A FIGHT AT A JOE SATRIANI CONCERT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. :lol:
fighting for who gets out the door first!
Quote from: FART LIPS on August 18, 2009, 09:40:03 PM
Quote from: bigfil38 on August 18, 2009, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: Idlehanz on August 14, 2009, 04:38:04 PM
I can only remember two shows in the states that I've seen fights at. White Zombie and Down. I think it has a lot to do with the fanbase. Granted some people come to shows so fucked up that all they do is look for a fight, and that can happen almost anywhere, but I believe the fanbase is the major reason.
REALLY? MAN, I'M BETTING THAT I'VE SEEN MORE FIGHTS AS OPPOSED TO NOT SEEING THEM AT MOST SHOWS I'VE BEEN TO. :-k
I SAW A FIGHT AT A JOE SATRIANI CONCERT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. :lol:
fighting for who gets out the door first!
:lol: