And what if that drummer was Ringo Starr??
DISCUSS.
I think a 3rd drummer would just be completely overpowering and not sound that great. The double drummer thing is totally awesome though, especially live.
Sounds good to me.
I'd like to hear three drummers in Melvins.
Call Danny Carey and make an EP.
Just for lulz.
I'd rather they add a keyboard player like Mark Mothersbaugh,
Rick Wakeman, Bernie Worrell or even Gary Numan
Sounds good to me.
why not two bass players? could be Buzzo, Dale, Coady, Jared and Trevor
Here's an idea. Get a bass player and let's get back to the Melvins! Enough of this Big Bizvins crap!
There, I said it.
But seriously Dead Mike, didn't you mean to say Brain? That would be interesting to see what Dale & Brain sounded like together. Not sure if that would even work.
its been done actually, late 90s or so, for a few songs off thr maggot, with the melt banana dude and the guy from vaz. dale in the middle and the other guys playing along with the beat, no fills + extras.
Quote from: anaconda on September 09, 2009, 11:54:56 PM
I'd rather they add a keyboard player like Mark Mothersbaugh,
Rick Wakeman, Bernie Worrell or even Gary Numan
That could be interesting.
i'm for the trio :Buzz+Dale+bass player x
Quote from: black stallion on September 10, 2009, 03:53:16 AM
i'm for the trio :Buzz+Dale+bass player x
Yea, trio is the best life form for Melvins.
Quote from: molotov on September 09, 2009, 11:44:39 PM
Call Danny Carey and make an EP.
why I oughta....
danny carey doesn't have the beef to play with dale/coady. he's all tech, neil perty. he's not versed in the ways of the HEAVY. at least make it someone who can WAIL.
Quote from: glen on September 10, 2009, 08:22:09 AM
Quote from: molotov on September 09, 2009, 11:44:39 PM
Call Danny Carey and make an EP.
why I oughta....
danny carey doesn't have the beef to play with dale/coady. he's all tech, neil perty. he's not versed in the ways of the HEAVY. at least make it someone who can WAIL.
You don't like Tool. We get it. Listen to Divorce. What's there not to like? Danny Carey is fully versed in the ways of the heavy. So he's not as heavy as Dale? Who is? Dale isn't as technical as Danny? What's the big deal? Dale and Danny are too completely different drummers. I don't find one to be better than the other. Do I prefer Dale over Danny? Sure. I don't know but to me Divorced is solid empirical evidence that not only can both play together awfully well, but they complement each other in a way that Coady and Dale do not. I'm not claiming one drummer is better than the other or anything like that but to suggest that Danny Carey can't keep up with Dale on account of his "lack of heavyness" is like saying Dale can't keep up with Danny because he's not nearly as technical (... or a different kind of technical). it don't make no sense.
Also, even though I'm a canuck, I will ignore the little jab towards the Canadian hero that is Neil Peart.
oh and, I still can't believe how many people are bitching and whining about big melvins. Are you fucking kidding me? Seems like it was not too long ago that we all had a collective raging boner when we first heard the melvins would usurp the biz. STFU and let Buzz & co. do the driving.
Quote from: ManWithNoName on September 10, 2009, 08:43:04 AM
Quote from: glen on September 10, 2009, 08:22:09 AM
Quote from: molotov on September 09, 2009, 11:44:39 PM
Call Danny Carey and make an EP.
why I oughta....
danny carey doesn't have the beef to play with dale/coady. he's all tech, neil perty. he's not versed in the ways of the HEAVY. at least make it someone who can WAIL.
You don't like Tool. We get it. Listen to Divorce. What's there not to like? Danny Carey is fully versed in the ways of the heavy. So he's not as heavy as Dale? Who is? Dale isn't as technical as Danny? What's the big deal? Dale and Danny are too completely different drummers. I don't find one to be better than the other. Do I prefer Dale over Danny? Sure. I don't know but to me Divorced is solid empirical evidence that not only can both play together awfully well, but they complement each other in a way that Coady and Dale do not. I'm not claiming one drummer is better than the other or anything like that but to suggest that Danny Carey can't keep up with Dale on account of his "lack of heavyness" is like saying Dale can't keep up with Danny because he's not nearly as technical (... or a different kind of technical). it don't make no sense.
Also, even though I'm a canuck, I will ignore the little jab towards the Canadian hero that is Neil Peart.
oh and, I still can't believe how many people are bitching and whining about big melvins. Are you fucking kidding me? Seems like it was not too long ago that we all had a collective raging boner when we first heard the melvins would usurp the biz. STFU and let Buzz & co. do the driving.
You like Tool & Rush. We get it. :D .....Big Belvins Rules!!
Quote from: ManWithNoName on September 10, 2009, 08:43:04 AM
You don't like Tool. We get it. Listen to Divorce. What's there not to like? Danny Carey is fully versed in the ways of the heavy. So he's not as heavy as Dale? Who is? Dale isn't as technical as Danny? What's the big deal? Dale and Danny are too completely different drummers.
nothing to do with not liking tool. yet it is. becuase this is exactly the reason I don't like tool. they aren't heavy.
but I see your compliment point. to some extent.
dale just has that strange timing thing going on. dale is dale. there is no other.
I think coady is an amazing drummer. prolly my 2nd favorite on earth. but I'd still be more inclined to hear dale on his own and coady on
hi[/i]s own.
but hey, I don't make the decisions. I just buy the music. and the tickets.
in closing let me say that I am hoping the next MELVINS albums has more change-off drumming and independent things going on between dale and coady. as opposed to the beat for beat of the last 2 albums. work OFF each other. not WITH each other. IMO. bringing us back to the original point of this thread. a 3rd drummer would be left no room.
Dale + Cody + Dave Lombardo
Quote from: glen on September 10, 2009, 08:22:09 AM
Quote from: molotov on September 09, 2009, 11:44:39 PM
Call Danny Carey and make an EP.
why I oughta....
danny carey doesn't have the beef to play with dale/coady. he's all tech, neil perty. he's not versed in the ways of the HEAVY. at least make it someone who can WAIL.
How about Igor? Or Danny Herrera? Or Igor
AND Danny Herrera? :shock:
if they were still alive, I would suggest John Bonham and/or Keith Moon
How about Cozy Powell?
after seeing the melvins as trio doing houdini its safe to say that they are way better and heavier as a trio. if there is a need for a fourth it should be a second guitarist or synth. I dont like jareds bass playing or his tone either.
but like glen said.. were not the ones who decide this.
theres already a studio album in the works with the current line up. I just hope its not going to be a ASA NWB sort of thing.
Quote from: Uncle Fester on September 10, 2009, 01:09:59 PM
theres already a studio album in the works with the current line up. I just hope its not going to be a ASA NWB sort of thing.
Third time's the charm?
Quote from: ManWithNoName on September 10, 2009, 08:43:04 AM...they complement each other in a way that Coady and Dale do not.
Yes!
Quote from: ManWithNoName on September 10, 2009, 08:43:04 AMoh and, I still can't believe how many people are bitching and whining about big melvins. Are you fucking kidding me? Seems like it was not too long ago that we all had a collective raging boner when we first heard the melvins would usurp the biz. STFU and let Buzz & co. do the driving.
Seriously? I was never part of said boner. I had high hopes at the beginning, but those were dashed at the release of ASA and ASA part 2 (known as NWB). The recent Houdini shows were proof that they have always been heavier and tighter as a 3 piece.
Quote from: Uncle Fester on September 10, 2009, 01:09:59 PMI dont like jareds bass playing or his tone either.
but like glen said.. were not the ones who decide this.
theres already a studio album in the works with the current line up. I just hope its not going to be a ASA NWB sort of thing.
As a bass player, I totally agree. The jazz don't cut it for Melvins tone. Slap a precision on that boy and take away his pedals. The last two albums have the weakest bass of ANY Melvins records to date. That, more than the drumming is my biggest gripe about Big Bizvins. All that said, I'll buy everything that put out with the boys from the Biz, and go see 'em when they come on tour. I just prefer them as a trio...
Dale+Coady+Stanier
Say what you will about ASA and NWB, the new line up is the most powerful live version of the Melvins to date.IMO.
Quote from: molotov on September 10, 2009, 09:58:21 AM
Bless you.
Hope it isn't h1n1.
:lol:
you're a funny motherfucker for a russian.
:D
Fuck all your ideas. (not really)
Either one of two things.
1. Get another guitar player for rhythm (DDS, Adam Jones, Tim Moss)
2. Enter Lustmord as a regular touring musician.
Can I get a 'hell yeah!'?
hell yeah if you scratch coady and jarod :D
Quote from: nickoctane on September 10, 2009, 01:52:42 PM
Say what you will about ASA and NWB, the new line up is the most powerful live version of the Melvins to date.IMO.
You must not have caught any of the Houdini shows. I remembered them being better/heavier pre-Biz, but had forgotten why they were better and how much better they were until I saw that show. That lineup pisses all over the four-piece. I've still never seen a live lineup as good as when Kevin was still around, but with Trevor they come damn close. Don't get me wrong, the four piece is better than any other band out there... unless it's a three piece Melvins lineup with a top notch bass player. The Bizvins lineup definitely limits what they can play live as well. Jared's never gonna play a noisy Kevin Rutmanis slide bass part. That pretty much eliminates ever hearing anything from HAT and a lot of The Maggot live...
I do wish that they would play more Kevin era. I think that Jared is talented enough to do it.
Quote from: Like Stee on September 10, 2009, 03:06:44 PM
Quote from: nickoctane on September 10, 2009, 01:52:42 PM
Say what you will about ASA and NWB, the new line up is the most powerful live version of the Melvins to date.IMO.
I've still never seen a live lineup as good as when Kevin was still around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paeOoc8s8Tw
Quote from: anaconda on September 09, 2009, 11:54:56 PM
I'd rather they add a keyboard player like Mark Mothersbaugh,
Rick Wakeman, Bernie Worrell or even Gary Numan
I'm for the Rick Wakeman idea, provided the melvins live show also incorporates a medieval-themed ice skating show.
:lol:
Quote from: ManWithNoName on September 10, 2009, 08:43:04 AM
Quote from: glen on September 10, 2009, 08:22:09 AM
Quote from: molotov on September 09, 2009, 11:44:39 PM
Call Danny Carey and make an EP.
why I oughta....
danny carey doesn't have the beef to play with dale/coady. he's all tech, neil perty. he's not versed in the ways of the HEAVY. at least make it someone who can WAIL.
You don't like Tool. We get it. Listen to Divorce. What's there not to like? Danny Carey is fully versed in the ways of the heavy. So he's not as heavy as Dale? Who is? Dale isn't as technical as Danny? What's the big deal? Dale and Danny are too completely different drummers. I don't find one to be better than the other. Do I prefer Dale over Danny? Sure. I don't know but to me Divorced is solid empirical evidence that not only can both play together awfully well, but they complement each other in a way that Coady and Dale do not. I'm not claiming one drummer is better than the other or anything like that but to suggest that Danny Carey can't keep up with Dale on account of his "lack of heavyness" is like saying Dale can't keep up with Danny because he's not nearly as technical (... or a different kind of technical). it don't make no sense.
Also, even though I'm a canuck, I will ignore the little jab towards the Canadian hero that is Neil Peart.
oh and, I still can't believe how many people are bitching and whining about big melvins. Are you fucking kidding me? Seems like it was not too long ago that we all had a collective raging boner when we first heard the melvins would usurp the biz. STFU and let Buzz & co. do the driving.
=D> I agree wholeheartedly!
I'd also like to say how unfair it is to expect ANY bassist to be better than Kevin. He was pretty much the perfect Melvins bassist. His tone was amazing, I LOVED the slide bass and it's hard to picture many Melvins songs without it, and the Kevin dancing makes his stage presence better than anyone. Jared is a great bassist and I like his tone a lot. Dog Island and History of Bad Men really do sound great because of Jared. I do wish he'd move around a little more live.
Line-up for the remainder of their career:
Buzz
Dale
Trevor
Adam - additional guitar
Sir DSS - additional guitar, noises
:cheers:
Quote from: seas of luck on September 10, 2009, 05:39:47 PM
I'd also like to say how unfair it is to expect ANY bassist to be better than Kevin. He was pretty much the perfect Melvins bassist. His tone was amazing, I LOVED the slide bass and it's hard to picture many Melvins songs without it, and the Kevin dancing makes his stage presence better than anyone. Jared is a great bassist and I like his tone a lot. Dog Island and History of Bad Men really do sound great because of Jared. I do wish he'd move around a little more live.
Trevor's as good. Jared's not.
:cheers:
Quote from: Bitches of Copacabana on September 10, 2009, 05:52:26 PM
Line-up for the remainder of their career:
Buzz
Dale
Trevor
Adam - additional guitar
Sir DSS - additional guitar, noises
:cheers:
Deutrom was the better fit for the Melvins than Kevin in my opinion.
The current incarnation of the Melvins are quite capable of bringing the heavy. But it's whatever they feel like playing that guides their sound. If they want to go Houdini or Maggot heavy, they could. Two albums in and people think that THIS is the only way they will sound? I think we are in for some Melviny goodness ahead that could surpass expectations.
Quote from: ManWithNoName on September 10, 2009, 08:43:04 AM
Quote from: glen on September 10, 2009, 08:22:09 AM
Quote from: molotov on September 09, 2009, 11:44:39 PM
Call Danny Carey and make an EP.
why I oughta....
danny carey doesn't have the beef to play with dale/coady. he's all tech, neil perty. he's not versed in the ways of the HEAVY. at least make it someone who can WAIL.
You don't like Tool. We get it. Listen to Divorce. What's there not to like? Danny Carey is fully versed in the ways of the heavy. So he's not as heavy as Dale? Who is? Dale isn't as technical as Danny? What's the big deal? Dale and Danny are too completely different drummers. I don't find one to be better than the other. Do I prefer Dale over Danny? Sure. I don't know but to me Divorced is solid empirical evidence that not only can both play together awfully well, but they complement each other in a way that Coady and Dale do not. I'm not claiming one drummer is better than the other or anything like that but to suggest that Danny Carey can't keep up with Dale on account of his "lack of heavyness" is like saying Dale can't keep up with Danny because he's not nearly as technical (... or a different kind of technical). it don't make no sense.
Also, even though I'm a canuck, I will ignore the little jab towards the Canadian hero that is Neil Peart.
oh and, I still can't believe how many people are bitching and whining about big melvins. Are you fucking kidding me? Seems like it was not too long ago that we all had a collective raging boner when we first heard the melvins would usurp the biz. STFU and let Buzz & co. do the driving.
have you seen the melvins as a trio?
theres a difference that is as clear as day, manwith.
What if the Melvins grew a third penis, and this penis grew hands, and started playing drums? What would you do now? Could you handle the rock then? I don't think so.
Quote from: MeddlingCrybaby on September 10, 2009, 08:34:15 PM
What if the Melvins grew a third penis, and this penis grew hands, and started playing drums? What would you do now? Could you handle the rock then? I don't think so.
So you're saying two members (no pun intended) of the current lineup don't have penises?
I had no idea.
dale + coady + creepy illustrator.
this thread leads me to this....i have seen the Melvins 20+ times.... the best show bar none i have ever seen of anyband was the Melvins in Wilmington, NC 2000. Kevin got in a fight. i got some great pics, and the setlist was stupid. I wanna try and remember that this was the 2x4 tour. Two sets. In a small club that was days away from closing. and i must admit that with that lineup (kev and DSS) was the best Melvins show i have ever witnessedl....
that is it. i have a new menu to prep for.
INDEED
MelBoredoms would be a fitting name for it.
Quote from: black stallion on September 10, 2009, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: Like Stee on September 10, 2009, 03:06:44 PM
Quote from: nickoctane on September 10, 2009, 01:52:42 PM
Say what you will about ASA and NWB, the new line up is the most powerful live version of the Melvins to date.IMO.
I've still never seen a live lineup as good as when Kevin was still around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paeOoc8s8Tw
That was the G&L SB-2 that I'm guessing had its pickups and hardware harvested for the Shove-It bass. Always knew that those were G&L pickups, but I'd never seen Kevin play a G&L. That must have been just before the Shove It bass (and its orange twin, that lacks the inlay) was built.
Shove-It: http://www.themelvins.net/wiki/index.php?title=Image:03202004-12.jpg
G&L SB-2 http://www.ggjaguar.com/sb-2-84.htm
Orange Twin of the Shove-It bass: http://www.themelvins.net/wiki/index.php?title=Image:02012003-08.jpg
Quote from: anaconda on September 09, 2009, 11:54:56 PM
I'd rather they add a keyboard player like Mark Mothersbaugh,
Rick Wakeman, Bernie Worrell or even Gary Numan
1979-1983 Gary Numan would be interseting.
He has definitely jumped the whale.
Quote from: pinkyslim on September 11, 2009, 11:11:20 PM
Quote from: anaconda on September 09, 2009, 11:54:56 PM
I'd rather they add a keyboard player like Mark Mothersbaugh,
Rick Wakeman, Bernie Worrell or even Gary Numan
1979-1983 Gary Numan would be interseting.
He has definitely jumped the whale.
Pinkyslim, what pornos were you in?
What if Dale and Buzz were looking for a bassist?
What if the Melvins played 3 encore/s?
Quote from: MeddlingCrybaby on September 12, 2009, 01:03:02 AM
Quote from: pinkyslim on September 11, 2009, 11:11:20 PM
Quote from: anaconda on September 09, 2009, 11:54:56 PM
I'd rather they add a keyboard player like Mark Mothersbaugh,
Rick Wakeman, Bernie Worrell or even Gary Numan
1979-1983 Gary Numan would be interseting.
He has definitely jumped the whale.
Pinkyslim, what pornos were you in?
:?:
Quote from: Bitches of Copacabana on September 12, 2009, 02:50:10 AM
Quote from: MeddlingCrybaby on September 12, 2009, 01:03:02 AM
Quote from: pinkyslim on September 11, 2009, 11:11:20 PM
Quote from: anaconda on September 09, 2009, 11:54:56 PM
I'd rather they add a keyboard player like Mark Mothersbaugh,
Rick Wakeman, Bernie Worrell or even Gary Numan
1979-1983 Gary Numan would be interseting.
He has definitely jumped the whale.
Pinkyslim, what pornos were you in?
:?:
2 girls, no cup.
What if the Melvins played a Holiday/NYE '09 -'010 show/s in NorCal/BayArea?
:)
Quote from: Buick on September 13, 2009, 08:37:02 PM
What if the Melvins played a Holiday/NYE '09 -'010 show/s in NorCal/BayArea?
:)
i sure the hell wouldnt put it pass them. the melvins lvoe to treat us right during the holiday season. BUT they are playing the butthole surfers in october, so they might skip us this year :(
Let's hope not.
*fingers crossed*