Red Eye (Recorded Jun 10, 2011, FNCHD)(CF) (Part 1 of 4)).mpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vid4I0yCopk#ws)
Red Eye (Recorded Jun 10, 2011, FNCHD)(CF) (Part 2 of 4)).mpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvc7-mtzyZM#ws)
Red Eye (Recorded Jun 10, 2011, FNCHD)(CF) (Part 3 of 4)).mpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPdHrRpPVac#ws)
Red Eye (Recorded Jun 10, 2011, FNCHD)(CF) (Part 4 of 4)).mpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apyup-i_GgY#ws)
Thanks but I'm too busy to check it out now.
Wait, Ann Coulter? That's a name I haven't heard in awhile. I was kind of hoping to not hear of her anymore.
She will never die. She is not of our kind.
Goodness i wouldn't go anywhere near this boring, unfunny show had Buzz not been involved.
I hate Coulter more than I love Buzz.
I can't watch any of it. I tried. It's like high school gossip class, watching the uncomfortable, talented guy saying "At least I'm getting publicity!"
I'm reminded of Minstrel Shows while watching this deplorable void of personality cult.
It's the only place I've seen Buzz relatively quiet due to the fact that everyone else has a bigger mouth. Oy.
Can't watch Fox News. I saw a bit of this shitty Red Eye show once and all they were doing were paying out bands and artists.
The right are just inherently negative.
We distort, you comply.
Quote from: Bigval on June 11, 2011, 12:30:49 PM
Can't watch Fox News. I saw a bit of this shitty Red Eye show once and all they were doing were paying out bands and artists.
The right are just inherently negative.
We distort, you comply.
Some lady on the show called Coulter an ultra-liberal. :-s
why buzz is still going at this TV program?don't know that woman but she seems hot
Quote from: black stallion on June 11, 2011, 12:38:05 PM
why buzz is still going at this TV program?don't know that woman but she seems hot
Haha! Never stop being Italian, man!
Van Halen - Hot For Teacher (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0XLKcMoXRE#)
If it were an evil teacher with a gnashing toothed death-vagina.
Quote from: Braykfast on June 11, 2011, 01:19:32 PM
Van Halen - Hot For Teacher (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0XLKcMoXRE#)
If it were an evil teacher with a gnashing toothed death-vagina.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Braykfast on June 11, 2011, 09:26:59 AM
I can't watch any of it. I tried. It's like high school gossip class
True. Each person shouting over the other, demanding attention to try to be the alpha male or something in an attempt to get their pointless, point across on a topic of complete mediocrity and/or insignificance. ](*,)
I hope i never have to see any of this trash ever again.
Awesome! The twitter pic is badass too!
Horrible, horrible show. Fortunately, thanks to youtube, you can fast-forward to the relevant scenes where only Buzz is speaking.
I always thought Fox was supposed to be fair and balanced news. :-k
Ann Coulter is punk rock
Quote from: SeattleSam on June 11, 2011, 06:20:11 PM
I always thought Fox was supposed to be fair and balanced news. :-k
you and the rest of the liberal mob are too busy endangering america to see that it truly is fair and balanced :lol: :lol: :lol: :shock:
Quote from: Ann Coulter's newest pile of shit book 'Demonic: How the Liberal Mob is Endangering America'"Just as fire seeks oxygen, Democrats seek power, which is why they will always be found championing the mob whether the mob consists of Democrats lynching blacks or Democrats slandering the critics of ObamaCare as racists."
Sentences like that speak more negatively to the market she has to purchase her books than to the people she's attempting to 'demonize'.
Quote from: Jackie Treehorn on June 11, 2011, 07:52:04 PM
Ann Coulter is punk rock
Ann Coulter is (a) punk
rock ass bitch.
ann coulter can lick the red eye...
Ann Hart Coulter is an anagram of Retro Anal Cunt. There's an 'H' left over but I don't give a shit.
Quote from: turnacus on June 11, 2011, 09:25:18 AM
I hate Coulter more than I love Buzz.
Couldn't agree more.
I saw this post yesterday and couldn't bring myself to watch it( just being fox new related).
Now I come back today and look closer and find that ann coulter is involved?
Thanks to all the people that took one for the team and subjected themselves to this, so that the rest of us could just read your comments here and save ourselves the torture.
Seriously...if the actual nazi party had a cable channel that invited Buzz to come on would that be OK just because he's getting free promotion?
Oh, but as long as the host was a "music fan" then it would be alright??? Come on Buzz..Stop it!
Can someone just write out what times Buzz actually gets to talk on these clips? I just wanna hear Buzz talk more.
hehe.
edit: notice the pic leans to the right.
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Quote from: TheLegitMan93 on June 12, 2011, 01:31:16 PM
Can someone just write out what times Buzz actually gets to talk on these clips? I just wanna hear Buzz talk more.
He really didn't say much on this episode. Its really not that painful to watch. They try and be funny. Like the Nazis on Hogans Heroes. But less so.
Quote from: BaronVonLipshitz on June 12, 2011, 12:43:47 PM
Quote from: Greasy Statement on June 12, 2011, 12:05:44 PM
ann coulter can lick the red brown eye...
fixed
I always love having any excuse to pass this classic around:
I Fucked Ann Coulter In The Ass, Hard (http://ifuckedanncoulterintheasshard.blogspot.com/?zx=bd4db9f61d726ca7)
You all just proved my point. Ann Coulter is punk rock. She angers you and offends you. She's the GG Allin of conservatives.
And yes, that Red Eye Show was awful. That "comedian" wasn't funny and neither were the other guests.
I don't care for Ann Coulter and I think I may have tried to read one of her books years ago but didn't finish it. There are better conservative writers out there.
Mark Levin wrote an excellent book called Liberty & Tyranny. Quick read and concise.
So, the purpose of punk rock is to offend.. :-k
Quote from: SeattleSam on June 13, 2011, 07:40:34 PM
So, the purpose of punk rock is to offend.. :-k
it always worked that way for me.
Seriously guys, how are you gonna feel about buzz knowing he's buds with coulter? Looks like they all went out for dinner after taping. :lol:
Iggy Pop knows Punk Rock.
MOGWAI-PUNK ROCK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE5ho61yPXg#)
Also...anytime I hear GG Allin I think of a whiny kid in a supermarket who can't get what he wants. And I'm all like, "why can't that kid just die?" And then I'm all like, "oh yeah, it has a lot of growing up to do."
Nothing like another debate about what is punk rock and what is not punk rock. Who the fuck really cares? If you like it - listen to it. If you do not like it - do not listen to it.
Punk Rock debates are less interesting than a Ford vs. Chevy debate. Who gives a rats ass...
Quote from: Braykfast on June 11, 2011, 09:26:59 AM
I can't watch any of it. I tried. It's like high school gossip class, watching the uncomfortable, talented guy saying "At least I'm getting publicity!"
Yea, this has been the only episode of Red Eye that I tried to watch but just couldn't because it's too painful. Not that I watch the show but I'll check out the other videos of great guests they've had like Neil Hamburger, Mark Prindle, Doug Stanhope, and a few more.
Quote from: swanky on June 14, 2011, 08:48:51 AM
Seriously guys, how are you gonna feel about buzz knowing he's buds with coulter? Looks like they all went out for dinner after taping. :lol:
I have friends of many different ideologies because my head isn't so far up my ass that I'm only going to like people that have the same political views as me.
Quote from: ConcertFreak on June 12, 2011, 12:32:53 PM
Quote from: turnacus on June 11, 2011, 09:25:18 AM
I hate Coulter more than I love Buzz.
Couldn't agree more.
I saw this post yesterday and couldn't bring myself to watch it( just being fox new related).
Now I come back today and look closer and find that ann coulter is involved?
Thanks to all the people that took one for the team and subjected themselves to this, so that the rest of us could just read your comments here and save ourselves the torture.
Seriously...if the actual nazi party had a cable channel that invited Buzz to come on would that be OK just because he's getting free promotion?
Oh, but as long as the host was a "music fan" then it would be alright??? Come on Buzz..Stop it!
Dude, Penn Jillette recently answered that exact question and I imagine Buzz feels the exact same way. There's a reason that they are making a living in the entertainment industry while the rest of you are bitching about the decisions they make on an obscure message board.
Here's the interview. On PC ctrl + f and search for "hitler" if you're too lazy to read the whole thing. http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/06/penn-jillette-is-willing-to-be-a-guest-on-adolf-hitlers-talk-show.html (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/06/penn-jillette-is-willing-to-be-a-guest-on-adolf-hitlers-talk-show.html)
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 14, 2011, 01:24:09 PM
Dude, Penn Jillette recently answered that exact question and I imagine Buzz feels the exact same way. There's a reason that they are making a living in the entertainment industry while the rest of you are bitching about the decisions they make on an obscure message board.
Here's the interview. On PC ctrl + f and search for "hitler" if you're too lazy to read the whole thing. http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/06/penn-jillette-is-willing-to-be-a-guest-on-adolf-hitlers-talk-show.html (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/06/penn-jillette-is-willing-to-be-a-guest-on-adolf-hitlers-talk-show.html)
Yes, it's easier if you're morally bankrupt. I didn't know much about that Penn guy before just that he's always angry and pissed off but just read that interview and think even less of him now. In other words there is nothing he wouldn't do for exposure. He also seems to get off flinging shit (or at least attempting to) at everyone despite clearly being a right-winger. He's obviously a libertarian.
Quote from: Bigval on June 14, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 14, 2011, 01:24:09 PM
Dude, Penn Jillette recently answered that exact question and I imagine Buzz feels the exact same way. There's a reason that they are making a living in the entertainment industry while the rest of you are bitching about the decisions they make on an obscure message board.
Here's the interview. On PC ctrl + f and search for "hitler" if you're too lazy to read the whole thing. http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/06/penn-jillette-is-willing-to-be-a-guest-on-adolf-hitlers-talk-show.html (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/06/penn-jillette-is-willing-to-be-a-guest-on-adolf-hitlers-talk-show.html)
Yes, it's easier if you're morally bankrupt. I didn't know much about that Penn guy before just that he's always angry and pissed off but just read that interview and think even less of him now. In other words there is nothing he wouldn't do for exposure. He also seems to get off flinging shit (or at least attempting to) at everyone despite clearly being a right-winger. He's obviously a libertarian.
Scott, you just don't get it.
I'm not saying we should debate what punk rock is, but whom we should ascribe as punk rock like. Ann Coulter is a lapdog for hate mongers. She loves scapegoating. She's more christian metal than punk rock.
And who cares about your ford versus chevy analogy? It's clearly VW versus Harley Davidson, bitch.
She is punk rock and you can't handle it.
She's Nazi Reggae and you know it. All drunk and hitting on cabana boys. Crazy slurring her speech in Cabo Wabo. All wearing a crusty black thong and dancing to Marley. Reading Mein Kampf and drinking Blue Curacao. Two fingers deep while Mad Money plays in the background, tropical breeze stirring her hotel curtains, a knock at the door...it's the steel drum rhythmic section from the pig roast earlier that night, wondering why she tips 10%. Bartenders gotta live too.
"I hate cops to the max-"
That's punk rock. 8)
Fight before Fear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8p8aLA3uXM#)
Quote from: Braykfast on June 14, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
She's Nazi Reggae and you know it. All drunk and hitting on cabana boys. Crazy slurring her speech in Cabo Wabo. All wearing a crusty black thong and dancing to Marley. Reading Mein Kampf and drinking Blue Curacao. Two fingers deep while Mad Money plays in the background, tropical breeze stirring her hotel curtains, a knock at the door...it's the steel drum rhythmic section from the pig roast earlier that night, wondering why she tips 10%. Bartenders gotta live too.
nice job!! hehe...crusty black black thong/Mein Kampf :lol:
and the whole ann coulter punk rock thing...gimme a break.
the only reason anyone would enjoy punk rock is because of its ability to piss off their parents? really? wow
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 14, 2011, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: ConcertFreak on June 12, 2011, 12:32:53 PM
Quote from: turnacus on June 11, 2011, 09:25:18 AM
I hate Coulter more than I love Buzz.
Couldn't agree more.
I saw this post yesterday and couldn't bring myself to watch it( just being fox new related).
Now I come back today and look closer and find that ann coulter is involved?
Thanks to all the people that took one for the team and subjected themselves to this, so that the rest of us could just read your comments here and save ourselves the torture.
Seriously...if the actual nazi party had a cable channel that invited Buzz to come on would that be OK just because he's getting free promotion?
Oh, but as long as the host was a "music fan" then it would be alright??? Come on Buzz..Stop it!
Dude, Penn Jillette recently answered that exact question and I imagine Buzz feels the exact same way. There's a reason that they are making a living in the entertainment industry while the rest of you are bitching about the decisions they make on an obscure message board.
Here's the interview. On PC ctrl + f and search for "hitler" if you're too lazy to read the whole thing. http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/06/penn-jillette-is-willing-to-be-a-guest-on-adolf-hitlers-talk-show.html (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/06/penn-jillette-is-willing-to-be-a-guest-on-adolf-hitlers-talk-show.html)
So what you're saying is that a willingness to do satans talk show is a prerequisite to being able to make it out there in show business world?
..damnit. there goes my whole rock'n'roll fantasy right down the shitter. ughh
Quote from: ConcertFreak on June 14, 2011, 10:52:49 PM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 14, 2011, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: ConcertFreak on June 12, 2011, 12:32:53 PM
Quote from: turnacus on June 11, 2011, 09:25:18 AM
I hate Coulter more than I love Buzz.
Couldn't agree more.
I saw this post yesterday and couldn't bring myself to watch it( just being fox new related).
Now I come back today and look closer and find that ann coulter is involved?
Thanks to all the people that took one for the team and subjected themselves to this, so that the rest of us could just read your comments here and save ourselves the torture.
Seriously...if the actual nazi party had a cable channel that invited Buzz to come on would that be OK just because he's getting free promotion?
Oh, but as long as the host was a "music fan" then it would be alright??? Come on Buzz..Stop it!
Dude, Penn Jillette recently answered that exact question and I imagine Buzz feels the exact same way. There's a reason that they are making a living in the entertainment industry while the rest of you are bitching about the decisions they make on an obscure message board.
Here's the interview. On PC ctrl + f and search for "hitler" if you're too lazy to read the whole thing. http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/06/penn-jillette-is-willing-to-be-a-guest-on-adolf-hitlers-talk-show.html (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2010/06/penn-jillette-is-willing-to-be-a-guest-on-adolf-hitlers-talk-show.html)
So what you're saying is that a willingness to do satans talk show is a prerequisite to being able to make it out there in show business world?
..damnit. there goes my whole rock'n'roll fantasy right down the shitter. ughh
So what you're saying is if you were offered a slot on Red Eye you'd decline?
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 12:27:07 AMSo what you're saying is if you were offered a slot on Red Eye you'd decline?
Yes, I would decline. It's Fox News, FFS.
Quote from: Bigval on June 15, 2011, 02:27:16 AM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 12:27:07 AMSo what you're saying is if you were offered a slot on Red Eye you'd decline?
Yes, I would decline. It's Fox News, FFS.
But would you agree to go on a show where everyone already agrees with you? What's the point?
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 14, 2011, 01:19:48 PM
Quote from: Braykfast on June 11, 2011, 09:26:59 AM
I can't watch any of it. I tried. It's like high school gossip class, watching the uncomfortable, talented guy saying "At least I'm getting publicity!"
Yea, this has been the only episode of Red Eye that I tried to watch but just couldn't because it's too painful. Not that I watch the show but I'll check out the other videos of great guests they've had like Neil Hamburger, Mark Prindle, Doug Stanhope, and a few more.
Quote from: swanky on June 14, 2011, 08:48:51 AM
Seriously guys, how are you gonna feel about buzz knowing he's buds with coulter? Looks like they all went out for dinner after taping. :lol:
I have friends of many different ideologies because my head isn't so far up my ass that I'm only going to like people that have the same political views as me.
cool beans! Wanna be fwends? I just think it's funny how panty-wadded these guys get at the mere assumption that buzz might fall to the right just a teensy bit. Hell, he's an unabashed capitalist and he's mentioned things that do follow conservative endpoints even though he may get there by a completely different means. He sounds like a goddamn libertarian to me!
I think Panty-Wadded is the next albums name.
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 08:29:13 AM
Quote from: Bigval on June 15, 2011, 02:27:16 AM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 12:27:07 AMSo what you're saying is if you were offered a slot on Red Eye you'd decline?
Yes, I would decline. It's Fox News, FFS.
But would you agree to go on a show where everyone already agrees with you? What's the point?
Not at all, I welcome differences of opinion. We're talking about Fox News though, It's essentially a right-wing propaganda channel that deliberately tries to blur the lines between opinion and fact stooping to such a level to even doctoring photos of Democrat politicians to make them look worse. That's aside from all the freaks on their payroll. They are a disgrace and I wouldn't go on Fox News no matter how much I was offered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies)
Quote from: Bigval on June 15, 2011, 11:02:08 AM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 08:29:13 AM
Quote from: Bigval on June 15, 2011, 02:27:16 AM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 12:27:07 AMSo what you're saying is if you were offered a slot on Red Eye you'd decline?
Yes, I would decline. It's Fox News, FFS.
But would you agree to go on a show where everyone already agrees with you? What's the point?
Not at all, I welcome differences of opinion. We're talking about Fox News though, It's essentially a right-wing propaganda channel that deliberately tries to blur the lines between opinion and fact stooping to such a level to even doctoring photos of Democrat politicians to make them look worse. That's aside from all the freaks on their payroll. They are a disgrace and I wouldn't go on Fox News no matter how much I was offered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies)
So you don't think the other channels are biased and there to spread fear? Remember it was CNN that gave the world Glenn Beck in the first place.
I can post a wikipedia link too. It's not hard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN_controversies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN_controversies)
blah blah blah politics blah blah blah
Who fucking cares? Go "rock the vote" somewhere else.
I have a little time now so I'll elaborate on this a bit.
Quote from: Bigval on June 14, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
Yes, it's easier if you're morally bankrupt.
He believes that it's okay to be gay and it's not okay to molest children. Do you think he's morally bankrupt?
Quote from: Bigval on June 14, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
I didn't know much about that Penn guy before just that he's always angry and pissed off but just read that interview and think even less of him now.
Guess what, you still don't know very much about Penn Jillette. He is a magician and comedian, and he also had a show called Bullshit where he exaggerates how angry he is because it's a great angle. He's a big, scary looking guy but the anger is sort of an act. Have you heard of Lewis Black? Do you really think he's that pissed off all the time? Penn Jillette is one of the most seemingly happy celebrities out there. He loves his life and his family and the only bad things I've heard about him have been from people who don't know him in person. Still think he's pissed off all the time? Go to youtube and look up "Penn Says". 90% of the time he's very calm but he's talking very passionately about what he believes in. Penn Jillette has done more to restore your personal freedoms, ie getting rid of the war on drugs, than anything you, your friends, or any modern democrat will
probably ever do their lives.
Quote from: Bigval on June 14, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
In other words there is nothing he wouldn't do for exposure.
Did you even read the interview? Obviously he has a big problem with people getting killed. The very obvious point he was trying to make is that you shouldn't always preach to the choir. He could go on Beck's show and be a dick, and it'd be funny, but his points wouldn't be taken seriously. If he at least pretends to have some respect for the guy while showing that he's happy being an atheist, something he's very passionate about, his viewers may begin to consider atheism as a "belief" or whatever you'd like to call it. In fact, that's
exactly what Penn said! He specifically said, "I have people come up to me and say,
Quote from: sadcorps on June 15, 2011, 12:04:22 PM
blah blah blah politics blah blah blah
Who fucking cares? Go "rock the vote" somewhere else.
they drew first blood not me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExfGEYLrQQY#)
We all should know by now that any mention of Fox News is going to cause a shitstorm. Unfortunately my girlfriend is busy today so I have nothing better to do at the moment.
PS Obviously the people who asked why Buzz keeps going on Red Eye care.
The studio over dubbing of the actors voices on First Blood kills me.
I think Buzz said during that internet chat that he goes on Fox "because they ask him too", so he does get exposure even it is to a crowd who doesn't care who he is. But does anyone really give a hot shit if he is a Republican or a Democrat or if he loves Fox News or if he fucks goats?
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 12:32:32 PM
Being a right winger and libertarian are two completely different things.
This was really the only bit worth responding to:
QuoteTraditionally, the Left includes progressives, social liberals, social democrats, socialists, communists and anarchists.[2][3][4][5] The Right includes conservatives, libertarians, plutocrats, reactionaries, capitalists, monarchists, nationalists and fascists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_politics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_politics)
Libertarianism is of the Right my friend. That Penn magician is clearly a right-winger and it's obvious he's a Libertarian. Anyone into laissez-faire economics, small government (hate welfare for the poor), anti-Unions, tax minimization/tax evasion etc is IMO morally bankrupt.
boring. politics are boring. engaging in conversation about certain new channels and certain writers means you are doing part of their job for them.
Didn't Mark Prindle get into a fight with Greg, so they kicked him off, and banned him from Red Eye?
Quote from: ConcertFreak on June 14, 2011, 10:37:54 PM
Quote from: Braykfast on June 14, 2011, 09:29:35 PM
She's Nazi Reggae and you know it. All drunk and hitting on cabana boys. Crazy slurring her speech in Cabo Wabo. All wearing a crusty black thong and dancing to Marley. Reading Mein Kampf and drinking Blue Curacao. Two fingers deep while Mad Money plays in the background, tropical breeze stirring her hotel curtains, a knock at the door...it's the steel drum rhythmic section from the pig roast earlier that night, wondering why she tips 10%. Bartenders gotta live too.
nice job!! hehe...crusty black black thong/Mein Kampf :lol:
and the whole ann coulter punk rock thing...gimme a break.
the only reason anyone would enjoy punk rock is because of its ability to piss off their parents? really? wow
She is punk rock. She offends you and many people. Including parents.
Quote from: Bigval on June 15, 2011, 11:02:08 AM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 08:29:13 AM
Quote from: Bigval on June 15, 2011, 02:27:16 AM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 12:27:07 AMSo what you're saying is if you were offered a slot on Red Eye you'd decline?
Yes, I would decline. It's Fox News, FFS.
But would you agree to go on a show where everyone already agrees with you? What's the point?
Not at all, I welcome differences of opinion. We're talking about Fox News though, It's essentially a right-wing propaganda channel that deliberately tries to blur the lines between opinion and fact stooping to such a level to even doctoring photos of Democrat politicians to make them look worse. That's aside from all the freaks on their payroll. They are a disgrace and I wouldn't go on Fox News no matter how much I was offered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel_controversies)
Highest rated news channel. You have one 24 news channel that features conservative shows and then you have NBC CBS CNN MSNBC among others and you are complaining. Maybe Fox News meets a demand? Could that be why they are the highest rated news channel?
I never watch fox and still see the loads of horseshit passed as news by CNN, ABC, etc. But alas, lots of opinion here and no fact. Libertarians are socially liberal and financially conservative. I think of it as the best of both worlds. Its for all those fuckers who want entitlement bloodsuckers to get a job yet not be harrassed for being a different color or sexual orientation. Very moral IMHO.
People complain about one news channel while there are myriad alternatives. A Libertarian ought to welcome the competition.
Quote from: Jackie Treehorn on June 15, 2011, 07:41:44 PM
People complain about one news channel while there are myriad alternatives. A Libertarian ought to welcome the competition.
It's hardcore liberals that don't. Lol!
Anyone here ever read 1984 by Orwell? Remember the Two Minute Hate channel they all had to watch?
And punk rock is music. Ann Coulter is tone deaf. But if you find musicality in her illuminating presence, then Anarchy in the UK, brother. Rock the Casbah. Wait a minute...if Green Day offends me, are they punk rock? What about Taliban fanatics? Are tehy punk rock? They are pretty offensive. What about Black Militants and Flat Earth Society members? Punk Rock? That terrible music in elevators?
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 12:27:07 AM
Highest rated news channel. You have one 24 news channel that features conservative shows and then you have NBC CBS CNN MSNBC among others and you are complaining. Maybe Fox News meets a demand? Could that be why they are the highest rated news channel?
It's got nothing to do with them being "conservative" Yes, the rest of the mainstream news outlets are shit, but Fox is that extra evil paint peeling kind that you drop like maybe once every other month where you swear a demon must have crawled up your butt and died.
Everyone reading this please (if you don't already) check out www.democracynow.org (http://www.democracynow.org) for daily news casts from around the world brought to you by people who actually care about you as fellow human beings.
Quote from: Braykfast on June 15, 2011, 11:06:53 PM
That terrible music in elevators?
Yes, totally punk. 8)
Quote from: Bigval on June 15, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
Libertarianism is of the Right my friend. That Penn magician is clearly a right-winger and it's obvious he's a Libertarian. Anyone into laissez-faire economics, small government (hate welfare for the poor), anti-Unions, tax minimization/tax evasion etc is IMO morally bankrupt.
No its not. There's such a thing as "Left Libertarianism" -- distilling it down, it means the same as right-leaning libertarianism on some things, but the main difference is that it believes in restrictions on markets because left-libertarians feel that an unregulated market can actually do some of that harm and restriction of freedom that right-leaning libertarians believe won't be a problem. A left-libertarian agrees with his right-libertarian counterparts on matters of personal freedoms, such as abortion, drug use and generally agree not getting involved in stupid wars that have no bearing on national security. There are some on the "left" that identified with that aspect of the Ron Paul ideology, but are not for other aspects of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism)
Quote from: supernaut on June 16, 2011, 02:05:31 AM
No its not. There's such a thing as "Left Libertarianism" -- distilling it down, it means the same as right-leaning libertarianism on some things, but the main difference is that it believes in restrictions on markets because left-libertarians feel that an unregulated market can actually do some of that harm and restriction of freedom that right-leaning libertarians believe won't be a problem. A left-libertarian agrees with his right-libertarian counterparts on matters of personal freedoms, such as abortion, drug use and generally agree not getting involved in stupid wars that have no bearing on national security. There are some on the "left" that identified with that aspect of the Ron Paul ideology, but are not for other aspects of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism)
Yes it is as I showed and most people understand. Libertarianism is of the Right. Left-Libertarianism is a left-wing version of it some ideals I subscribe to on a social basis but not Libertarianism in general for the reasons I listed on the other page.
Quote from: ConcertFreak on June 15, 2011, 11:22:25 PM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 12:27:07 AM
Highest rated news channel. You have one 24 news channel that features conservative shows and then you have NBC CBS CNN MSNBC among others and you are complaining. Maybe Fox News meets a demand? Could that be why they are the highest rated news channel?
It's got nothing to do with them being "conservative" Yes, the rest of the mainstream news outlets are shit, but Fox is that extra evil paint peeling kind that you drop like maybe once every other month where you swear a demon must have crawled up your butt and died.
Everyone reading this please (if you don't already) check out www.democracynow.org (http://www.democracynow.org) for daily news casts from around the world brought to you by people who actually care about you as fellow human beings.
Exactly, there is a reason the other news organisations are respected internationally and Rupert's Fox News is a punchline all around the world. Fox News is just his most extreme vehicle, look at how much credibility News Corp have around the world from tapping celebrities and politicians phones in England (News of the World) to the editor of his far-right The Australian newspaper receiving an award for excellence in reporting from a lobby group representing the oil & gas exploration industries. That's not even taking into account all the billions he's cost News Corp shareholders or the products he's run into the ground like Myspace.
Quote from: SeattleSam on June 15, 2011, 05:44:11 PM
Didn't Mark Prindle get into a fight with Greg, so they kicked him off, and banned him from Red Eye?
Mark Prindle and Red Eye were sooooo made for each other. :) :-&
Quote from: Bigval on June 16, 2011, 02:44:29 AM
Quote from: supernaut on June 16, 2011, 02:05:31 AM
No its not. There's such a thing as "Left Libertarianism" -- distilling it down, it means the same as right-leaning libertarianism on some things, but the main difference is that it believes in restrictions on markets because left-libertarians feel that an unregulated market can actually do some of that harm and restriction of freedom that right-leaning libertarians believe won't be a problem. A left-libertarian agrees with his right-libertarian counterparts on matters of personal freedoms, such as abortion, drug use and generally agree not getting involved in stupid wars that have no bearing on national security. There are some on the "left" that identified with that aspect of the Ron Paul ideology, but are not for other aspects of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism)
Yes it is as I showed and most people understand. Libertarianism is of the Right. Left-Libertarianism is a left-wing version of it some ideals I subscribe to on a social basis but not Libertarianism in general for the reasons I listed on the other page.
It's astonishing how far you're willing to go into semantics without replying to anything else I said. Piss off.
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 16, 2011, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: Bigval on June 16, 2011, 02:44:29 AM
Quote from: supernaut on June 16, 2011, 02:05:31 AM
No its not. There's such a thing as "Left Libertarianism" -- distilling it down, it means the same as right-leaning libertarianism on some things, but the main difference is that it believes in restrictions on markets because left-libertarians feel that an unregulated market can actually do some of that harm and restriction of freedom that right-leaning libertarians believe won't be a problem. A left-libertarian agrees with his right-libertarian counterparts on matters of personal freedoms, such as abortion, drug use and generally agree not getting involved in stupid wars that have no bearing on national security. There are some on the "left" that identified with that aspect of the Ron Paul ideology, but are not for other aspects of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism)
Yes it is as I showed and most people understand. Libertarianism is of the Right. Left-Libertarianism is a left-wing version of it some ideals I subscribe to on a social basis but not Libertarianism in general for the reasons I listed on the other page.
It's astonishing how far you're willing to go into semantics without replying to anything else I said. Piss off.
ahhh the ideal liberal mind!
Quote from: swanky on June 16, 2011, 11:55:41 AM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 16, 2011, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: Bigval on June 16, 2011, 02:44:29 AM
Quote from: supernaut on June 16, 2011, 02:05:31 AM
No its not. There's such a thing as "Left Libertarianism" -- distilling it down, it means the same as right-leaning libertarianism on some things, but the main difference is that it believes in restrictions on markets because left-libertarians feel that an unregulated market can actually do some of that harm and restriction of freedom that right-leaning libertarians believe won't be a problem. A left-libertarian agrees with his right-libertarian counterparts on matters of personal freedoms, such as abortion, drug use and generally agree not getting involved in stupid wars that have no bearing on national security. There are some on the "left" that identified with that aspect of the Ron Paul ideology, but are not for other aspects of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism)
Yes it is as I showed and most people understand. Libertarianism is of the Right. Left-Libertarianism is a left-wing version of it some ideals I subscribe to on a social basis but not Libertarianism in general for the reasons I listed on the other page.
It's astonishing how far you're willing to go into semantics without replying to anything else I said. Piss off.
ahhh the ideal liberal mind!
:lol:
Hey dude are you going to any of the Georgia Big Business or Harvey Milk shows next month?
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 16, 2011, 11:23:12 AM
It's astonishing how far you're willing to go into semantics without replying to anything else I said. Piss off.
Don't go spitting the dummy on a forum because you made an ass of yourself, mate.
Quote from: Bigval on June 15, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 12:32:32 PM
Being a right winger and libertarian are two completely different things.
This was really the only bit worth responding to:
QuoteTraditionally, the Left includes progressives, social liberals, social democrats, socialists, communists and anarchists.[2][3][4][5] The Right includes conservatives, libertarians, plutocrats, reactionaries, capitalists, monarchists, nationalists and fascists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_politics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_politics)
Libertarianism is of the Right my friend. That Penn magician is clearly a right-winger and it's obvious he's a Libertarian. Anyone into laissez-faire economics, small government (hate welfare for the poor), anti-Unions, tax minimization/tax evasion etc is IMO morally bankrupt.
Here's a link from a credible source http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0706b.asp. (http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0706b.asp.) *I'm having trouble getting the link to work. Google "is libertarian right or left" and it should be the first link.
"Is libertarianism of the Left or of the Right? We often avoid this question with a resounding
Quote from: Bigval on June 16, 2011, 12:11:42 PM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 16, 2011, 11:23:12 AM
It's astonishing how far you're willing to go into semantics without replying to anything else I said. Piss off.
Don't go spitting the dummy on a forum because you made an ass of yourself, mate.
I'm the one who is calmly and happily answering any question you have so long as time permits it.
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 16, 2011, 12:08:17 PM
Quote from: swanky on June 16, 2011, 11:55:41 AM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 16, 2011, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: Bigval on June 16, 2011, 02:44:29 AM
Quote from: supernaut on June 16, 2011, 02:05:31 AM
No its not. There's such a thing as "Left Libertarianism" -- distilling it down, it means the same as right-leaning libertarianism on some things, but the main difference is that it believes in restrictions on markets because left-libertarians feel that an unregulated market can actually do some of that harm and restriction of freedom that right-leaning libertarians believe won't be a problem. A left-libertarian agrees with his right-libertarian counterparts on matters of personal freedoms, such as abortion, drug use and generally agree not getting involved in stupid wars that have no bearing on national security. There are some on the "left" that identified with that aspect of the Ron Paul ideology, but are not for other aspects of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_libertarianism)
Yes it is as I showed and most people understand. Libertarianism is of the Right. Left-Libertarianism is a left-wing version of it some ideals I subscribe to on a social basis but not Libertarianism in general for the reasons I listed on the other page.
It's astonishing how far you're willing to go into semantics without replying to anything else I said. Piss off.
ahhh the ideal liberal mind!
:lol:
Hey dude are you going to any of the Georgia Big Business or Harvey Milk shows next month?
I had hoped to make the torche show but I blew all my cash on boxsets and shenanigans. Someday I'll make it down as I have a very good friend in Athens always trying to talk me down.
It has become my firm belief that the liberal mindset is not to change the minds of their opposition but to simply shut them up, as evidenced by the flow of argument on this thread from the first page on. That is sad. Due exceptions to bigval and concert freek.
I have a little more time so I'll comment on this.
Quote from: Bigval on June 15, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
Libertarianism is of the Right my friend. That Penn magician is clearly a right-winger and it's obvious he's a Libertarian.
For arguments sake let's go ahead and say you're 100% right here. He's a right-winger. Who cares? Can we move on now?
Quote from: Bigval on June 15, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
small government (hate welfare for the poor)
In my own personal experience I've seen the system abused and misused beyond belief. I strongly believe that most people on welfare really are lazy and don't want to work. I've seen it myself and it's inexcusable in 2011. Even homeless people can go to a public library and access a computer to try and figure out something to do with their life. They could walk up to every store in sight and simply say, "I'm homeless and I need help. Will you help me?" They could even go to a church and have them help them out. I'm a pretty hardcore atheist but if every other idea simply didn't work and I needed to eat I certainly would go there for help. Apparently you have no problem with me working my ass off to pay for these people who refuse to do work. That's morally messed up to me.
Quote from: Bigval on June 15, 2011, 03:36:10 PM
tax minimization/tax evasion etc is IMO morally bankrupt.
I have a feeling that this is going into healthcare. Why else would you think someone who doesn't want to pay taxes would be morally bankrupt, unless you want those taxes to pay for war. Truthfully I'm completely divided on healthcare. Half of me would love to help people who need it, and one of my many goals in life is to open or strongly support charities for people with social anxiety, schizophrenia, and women abuse among other things. These are people who truly need help. They don't
need the government to pay for a broken tooth, but I digress. The other half, as I was saying before, knows that the system will be abused. I've had exchange students and every time they would get a slight headache or something they'd want to go to the doctor forgetting that they have to pay for it here. Also, life expectancy in the USA is 36th in the world out of 194 countries. Things aren't as bad as everyone wants you to believe.
I also strongly believe that anyone marching on the streets to get healthcare has their priorities out of order. How about we end the war on drugs before we get healthcare and spend even more money? How about we stop giving money to the police department so they can scare the shit out of you with their , "wear a seltbeat or we'll bust your ass" commercials? Here in Georgia there is a commercial where about 50 cops are just standing around doing
nothing except for staring into the camera and scaring the shit out of you. Shouldn't everyone be more pissed off that our tax dollars are being used to scare us? What about abstinence programs? Our government spends millions of dollars every year to tell people not to have sex! It's completely insane. If we stopped wasting money on so much crap like this
then you can talk to me about healthcare and I'll be listening with full attention. Oh yea, and our taxes would be even less even
with healthcare.
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Vote left, vote right... decadent America will fall to the glorious light of Islam either way.
Quote from: Justafilthylurker on June 16, 2011, 03:52:41 PM
Vote left, vote right... decadent America will fall to the glorious light of Islam either way.
not if the Chinese have anything to say about it!
I love watching you idiots put each other in labeled boxes. Coke vs. Pepsi, Ford vs. Chevy, Liberal vs. Conservative - enjoy your labels lemmings!
HEY. Penn Jillette doesn't appear too morally bankrupt at all.
Also; I don't think Liberals try to get their opposition to shut up rather than changing their minds. I also don' t really understand what goes for a liberal these days, either. It was easier to figure out when it was tossed around as a synonym for 'faggot' during the Bush presidency.
Quote from: Braykfast on June 15, 2011, 11:06:53 PM
Anyone here ever read 1984 by Orwell? Remember the Two Minute Hate channel they all had to watch?
And punk rock is music. Ann Coulter is tone deaf. But if you find musicality in her illuminating presence, then Anarchy in the UK, brother. Rock the Casbah. Wait a minute...if Green Day offends me, are they punk rock? What about Taliban fanatics? Are tehy punk rock? They are pretty offensive. What about Black Militants and Flat Earth Society members? Punk Rock? That terrible music in elevators?
Ann Coulter "offends". She is punk rock. That was punk rocks point, just as that was rock and roll's point at one time. Green Day is a pop band.
Quote from: ConcertFreak on June 15, 2011, 11:22:25 PM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 12:27:07 AM
Highest rated news channel. You have one 24 news channel that features conservative shows and then you have NBC CBS CNN MSNBC among others and you are complaining. Maybe Fox News meets a demand? Could that be why they are the highest rated news channel?
It's got nothing to do with them being "conservative" Yes, the rest of the mainstream news outlets are shit, but Fox is that extra evil paint peeling kind that you drop like maybe once every other month where you swear a demon must have crawled up your butt and died.
Everyone reading this please (if you don't already) check out www.democracynow.org (http://www.democracynow.org) for daily news casts from around the world brought to you by people who actually care about you as fellow human beings.
It's got everything to do with them having an alternative slant, thats why they are sooooooo terrwible.
Who is John Galt?
WTF is a Plutocrat, someone who still says Pluto is a planet?
John Galt is Ayn Rands wet dream. Atlas Shrugged was a great book (what what!) and should not be brought up when Ann Coul(ter) is being demonized. Where was I? Oh yeah...Ann Coulter is not punk rock. She's the Westboro Baptist Church of Celebrity Punditoids.
Punk rock is a Flying Dog Double IPA. Ann Coulter is a Diet Fanta with lime.
She's more punk than you.
Quote from: Jackie Treehorn on June 16, 2011, 09:01:45 PM
She's more punk than you.
We get it. Time for you to get new material.
Quote from: sadcorps on June 16, 2011, 04:55:44 PM
I love watching you idiots put each other in labeled boxes. Coke vs. Pepsi, Ford vs. Chevy, Liberal vs. Conservative - enjoy your labels lemmings!
I couldn't possibly agree more. How about judging each issue on it's own merit and not just agreeing/disagreeing because the "team" you ended up on tells you to.
Quote from: ConcertFreak on June 15, 2011, 11:22:25 PM
Quote from: MrLuck87 on June 15, 2011, 12:27:07 AM
Everyone reading this please (if you don't already) check out www.democracynow.org (http://www.democracynow.org) for daily news casts from around the world brought to you by people who actually care about you as fellow human beings.
It's got everything to do with them having an alternative slant, thats why they are sooooooo terrwible.
Speaking of useless labels....
alternative slant?
As in journalism that takes the time and effort to go on location let the people directly involved in a story tell their first hand accounts of what happened?
Sadly yes...I guess this is an "alternative" to having entertainment tonight melded together with micro snippets of important events slathered over with "experts" telling you what you are supposed to think.
sooooooo terrwible...
Quote from: ConcertFreak on June 16, 2011, 10:49:14 PM
Quote from: sadcorps on June 16, 2011, 04:55:44 PM
I love watching you idiots put each other in labeled boxes. Coke vs. Pepsi, Ford vs. Chevy, Liberal vs. Conservative - enjoy your labels lemmings!
I couldn't possibly agree more. How about judging each issue on it's own merit and not just agreeing/disagreeing because the "team" you ended up on tells you to.
I've always thought that labels make you defend your party to ridiculous extremes. I knew so many Republicans who wouldn't admit Bush did anything wrong until the very end, when the party basically started saying, "Yea, Bush sucked. But the next guy is nothing like him!" Even though he probably would have been. It's the same with Obama now. No democrat will admit that he has done anything wrong because they don't want to look stupid for voting for him and literally throwing parties all over the world even though he wasn't in office and didn't do a single thing at the time.
In case there was some misinterpretation, I'm the one trying to get Bigval to move off the topic of labels but it seems to be the only thing he wants to talk about.
Ann Coulter? Don't you mean MANN Coulter? hehe sorry
still no response to what people think about buzz chillin' with coulter. i would have loved to hear the talk between the two!
Aww...
Quote from: sadcorps on June 16, 2011, 10:18:09 PM
Quote from: Jackie Treehorn on June 16, 2011, 09:01:45 PM
She's more punk than you.
We get it. Time for you to get new material.
You get nothing. Time for you to go to a different thread if people in here talking political philosophies bores you. You obviously have better things to talk about. You are so above it all.
I agree. Back to our scintillating, prescient debate.
Ahem.
Ann Coulter is not punk rock. She belongs on Punk'd.
Quote from: Braykfast on June 18, 2011, 08:28:03 AM
Ann Coulter is not punk rock. She belongs on Punk'd.
Good one.
Quote from: Jackie Treehorn on June 18, 2011, 08:22:05 AM
Quote from: sadcorps on June 16, 2011, 10:18:09 PM
Quote from: Jackie Treehorn on June 16, 2011, 09:01:45 PM
She's more punk than you.
We get it. Time for you to get new material.
You get nothing. Time for you to go to a different thread if people in here talking political philosophies bores you. You obviously have better things to talk about. You are so above it all.
yawns
Quote from: dead mike on June 18, 2011, 09:08:45 AM
Quote from: Braykfast on June 18, 2011, 08:28:03 AM
Ann Coulter is not punk rock. She belongs on Punk'd.
Good one.
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