http://thetalkhouse.com/music/talks/buzz-osborne-the-melvins-talks/ (http://thetalkhouse.com/music/talks/buzz-osborne-the-melvins-talks/)
Never one to not tell it how it is.
Hopefully the upcoming Melvin's doco is accurate!
Just noticed daystar beat me to the scoop.
Yeah, Buzz shot down some the most talked about parts of The Cobain Story. I bet he gets more shit for this than the Kiss comments of a few years ago.
what were the KISS comments?? Can you paraphrase.
bagged on Ace and Peter's drug use and stands behind Gene and Paul's
KISS inc. ie..revolving cat and spacemen.
oh ya! OK, I remember that interview now! Thanks Floyd
Floyd? :-s :-k
Quote from: anaconda on June 06, 2015, 09:37:58 PM
oh ya! OK, I remember that interview now! Thanks Floyd
anytime brah...
Quote from: meezer on June 07, 2015, 01:05:48 AM
Floyd? :-s :-k
Nirvana reference, geez meez!
Lloyd, Floyd and Boyd was an earlier incarnation of Ed, Ted and Fred. 8)
Quote from: anaconda on June 07, 2015, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: meezer on June 07, 2015, 01:05:48 AM
Floyd? :-s :-k
Nirvana reference, geez meez!
Lloyd, Floyd and Boyd was an earlier incarnation of Ed, Ted and Fred. 8)
My grandfather was named Floyd and his brothers were named Lloyd and Cloyd.
Hmm. The name Cloyd peaked in popularity in 1880 and fell into obscurity
around 1920 according to the brain-trust at thinkbabynames.com
(http://www.thinkbabynames.com/graph/1/0/Cloyd)
Quote from: anaconda on June 07, 2015, 12:21:30 PM
Quote from: meezer on June 07, 2015, 01:05:48 AM
Floyd? :-s :-k
Nirvana reference, geez meez!
Lloyd, Floyd and Boyd was an earlier incarnation of Ed, Ted and Fred. 8)
yep. Conda is Golden.
Alexander Spence "Olgar" :lol:
obscure! throwing out a Moby Grape reference. :lol:
BUT BUZZ IS JUST CLEARLY JEALOUS NO ONE HAS HEARD OF MELVIN AND KURT MAKES MORE MONEY THAN HIM AS A DEAD GUY!
This thread. :cobain:
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 07, 2015, 04:31:27 PM
Quote from: LuckMach3 on June 07, 2015, 03:48:34 PM
BUT BUZZ IS JUST CLEARLY JEALOUS NO ONE HAS HEARD OF MELVIN AND KURT MAKES MORE MONEY THAN HIM AS A DEAD GUY!
Woah!! I can't believe you said that!!!
8-[
Sarcasm in green, please. :lol:
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/melvins-buzz-osborne-says-kurt-cobain-documentary-montage-of-heck-is-mostly-misguided-fiction/
Quote from: meezer on June 07, 2015, 04:35:17 PM
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 07, 2015, 04:31:27 PM
Quote from: LuckMach3 on June 07, 2015, 03:48:34 PM
BUT BUZZ IS JUST CLEARLY JEALOUS NO ONE HAS HEARD OF MELVIN AND KURT MAKES MORE MONEY THAN HIM AS A DEAD GUY!
Woah!! I can't believe you said that!!!
8-[
Sarcasm in green, please. :lol:
BUT BUZZ IS CLEARLY THE JEALOUS ONE EVEN THOUGH HE GETS TO MAKE A LIVING BY PLAYING MUSIC WITH WELL KNOWN AND WELL RESPECTED MUSICIANS!!! I HAVE NO ENVY AT ALL THAT HE GOT TO PLAY WITH THE SLAYER DRUMMER!
It's not at all surprising how so many fucking idiots still buy into the deification of Kurt Cobain. It is, however, fucking depressing.
Quote from: immoraliste on June 08, 2015, 08:26:02 AM
It's not at all surprising how so many fucking idiots still buy into the deification of Kurt Cobain. It is, however, fucking depressing.
True. I'm a huge Nirvana fan but Kurt's story is 100% tragedy. Drugs, depression and death. What a god.
I'm still trying to work my way through "cloyd".
cloyd??? :?
Meaning and name origin
Cloyd: As a boy's name Cloyd is a variant of Cloy: may be derived from "nail" (Old French) as an occupational name having to do with the nails in horse shoes.
Popularity
Cloyd is not a popular first name for males
Quote from: glen on June 08, 2015, 12:18:10 PM
I'm still trying to work my way through "cloyd".
cloyd??? :?
They lived on a farm in Indiana. The purpose of the names was when one name was called all 3 would come running.
Thanks for the name history , anaconda. In all honesty I didn't know that it was an actual name. I thought they were desperate for a name that rhymed with the other 2.
Dale has a similar take on the film...
"Are you surprised people are so interested in Kurt Cobain? Yeah, I guess so. It's weird to see your friend that you grew up with turned into some kind of mythical, Jim Morrison-type character. It's weird. He wouldn't have liked that at all.
What did you think of Brett Morgen's "Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck" documentary? A lot of it is not true. Where he says he was called the "retard (expletive)" ... where he supposedly tried to commit suicide for the first time by laying down on train tracks and the train misses him.
Is the Nirvana/Cobain story out of control? Oh, yeah. The story's always been out of control. The story's been out of control the whole time and hardly any of it is really true. People will believe what they want about stuff that happened and about him. A lot of times, he was pulling your leg."
http://www.expressnews.com/entertainment/music-stage/article/The-Melvins-were-part-of-the-Nirvana-era-6314077.php
(http://assets.blabbermouth.net/media/kingbuzzosolo2012_638.jpg)
Love this picture.
Quote from: deatheats on June 08, 2015, 04:05:26 PM
Dale has a similar take on the film...
"Are you surprised people are so interested in Kurt Cobain? Yeah, I guess so. It's weird to see your friend that you grew up with turned into some kind of mythical, Jim Morrison-type character. It's weird. He wouldn't have liked that at all.
What did you think of Brett Morgen's "Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck" documentary? A lot of it is not true. Where he says he was called the "retard (expletive)" ... where he supposedly tried to commit suicide for the first time by laying down on train tracks and the train misses him.
Is the Nirvana/Cobain story out of control? Oh, yeah. The story's always been out of control. The story's been out of control the whole time and hardly any of it is really true. People will believe what they want about stuff that happened and about him. A lot of times, he was pulling your leg."
http://www.expressnews.com/entertainment/music-stage/article/The-Melvins-were-part-of-the-Nirvana-era-6314077.php
I think a lot of people don't understand that Buzz is often sarcastic, not bitter, when talking about Nirvana. Dale's take sounds a lot more friendly and down to earth to people aren't familiar with The Melvins. I'm sure Nirvana fans will take Dale's take seriously instead of calling him a jealous prick.
Dale called Howard Stern "dude". That was funny.
What did you guys think of the movie? I thought it was done really well, and these sidebar stories that maybe are or aren't true, don't detract from the overall theme of the movie. Weird how Buzz was mentioned for like 5 seconds and the Melvins are never mentioned by name. I'm sure Buzz and Kurt had some fucked up times together, I mean he was trying to emulate Buzz, yet the Melvins are not discussed. Clearly Buzz is very interested as he watched the film 2 times and then wrote his opinion. Must be some emotions there still on both sides. Courtney Love certainly came off like the talentless piece of shit she is.
Quote from: Chomas on June 10, 2015, 11:07:57 PM
What did you guys think of the movie? I thought it was done really well, and these sidebar stories that maybe are or aren't true, don't detract from the overall theme of the movie. Weird how Buzz was mentioned for like 5 seconds and the Melvins are never mentioned by name. I'm sure Buzz and Kurt had some fucked up times together, I mean he was trying to emulate Buzz, yet the Melvins are not discussed. Clearly Buzz is very interested as he watched the film 2 times and then wrote his opinion. Must be some emotions there still on both sides. Courtney Love certainly came off like the talentless piece of shit she is.
Pretty much agree with everything you wrote, and also trust Buzz's recollections far more than what was presented in the film.
Quote from: GrimReaper on June 08, 2015, 11:37:32 PM
Dale called Howard Stern "dude". That was funny.
Dale was on Stern show? what now?
Quote from: Hot Pants on June 11, 2015, 03:31:26 AM
Quote from: GrimReaper on June 08, 2015, 11:37:32 PM
Dale called Howard Stern "dude". That was funny.
Dale was on Stern show? what now?
Here you go, Pants. Don't get your hopes up too high. Is was it is. Or was.
http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg343804#msg343804 (http://www.themelvins.net/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg343804#msg343804)
More thoughts. (http://www.riffyou.com/buzz-osborne-defends-stance-cobain-doc/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4li4RhcE_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4li4RhcE_w)
Quote from: meezer on June 12, 2015, 12:00:59 AM
Anyone have that issue? I want to master the "modern drumming" of Papa Roach. :P
Quote from: rimb on June 11, 2015, 06:17:43 PM
More thoughts. (http://www.riffyou.com/buzz-osborne-defends-stance-cobain-doc/)
Thanks. Anyone not getting this in your country? Borneo, I'm lookin at you! :D
I've been to websites that bash Buzz and the Melvin's for being dicks. On this issue however even they side with the King
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 12, 2015, 01:54:09 AM
Quote from: Satchel Paige on June 12, 2015, 01:01:36 AM
I've been to websites that bash Buzz and the Melvin's for being dicks.
Buzz IS kind of a dick though. At least at times anyway. Im only going by the interviews of course because i've never met him but it does appear that way. In some interviews he comes across as quite humble and pleasant, decent. But then in other interviews he seems like a total dick. Too blunt and very egotistical. That's my biggest problem with how he is. I really don't like those moments in interviews where he assumes he's always right and gets a bit big headed. Almost a chip on his shoulder type deal. I get the impression he's quite bitter about some stuff also. I don't like that at all. Dale on the other hand seems far more down to earth, reasonably friendly and unassuming.
I have to agree. I try not to read interviews with Buzz because he always comes across as bitter and negative about everything. Yes, he's overly opinionated but I think there is a show business angle with it too trying to get attention for the Melvins. Always taking shots at people burning bridges and then wondering why no one cares. I like the Melvins music but I wouldn't care to have a conversation with the guy.
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 12, 2015, 01:54:09 AM
Buzz IS kind of a dick though. At least at times anyway. Im only going by the interviews of course because i've never met him but it does appear that way. In some interviews he comes across as quite humble and pleasant, decent. But then in other interviews he seems like a total dick. Too blunt and very egotistical. That's my biggest problem with how he is. I really don't like those moments in interviews where he assumes he's always right and gets a bit big headed. Almost a chip on his shoulder type deal. I get the impression he's quite bitter about some stuff also. I don't like that at all.
What you see as being a dick, I see as confidence, and probably some humor that's lost in translation, but mainly it's well honed confidence. He's made a career/life by trusting his instincts, not caring what people may think or do, and he's done it, made himself into one of the best ever.
Quote from: Rusty Shackleford on June 12, 2015, 03:00:29 AM
What you see as being a dick, I see as confidence, and probably some humor that's lost in translation, but mainly it's well honed confidence. He's made a career/life by trusting his instincts, not caring what people may think or do, and he's done it, made himself into one of the best ever.
Agreed 110%.
He did it his way.
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Buzz is a dick. I'm a dick. Y'all are dicks. We SHOULD get along.
I have met Buzz three times in my life (once in 1990, once in 1995 and hung with him for an hour in 2012) and each and every time he has been nothing but a really nice guy. When I hung out with him I found him to be exactly the same kind of guy he is in audio/video interviews - very funny, witty, sarcastic and opinionated - but not at all like a dick. He tells it like it is, like he sees it. And I am sure in the world of "real Kurt Cobain/Nirvana" versus the world of "public perception/media creation/brand management Kurt Cobain/Nirvana" he must feel like he is beating his head against a wall. Two totally different stories.
When I recorded the Hex album with Earth, I talked to Dylan Carlson a bit about Kurt and Courtney. I won't go into detail because they are stories that are not mine to share (as they are Dylan's) but I can tell you that what Buzz is saying in his editorial is very much along the lines of what Dylan told me. That shit was DARK and gross - nothing at all neat-o or whatever the kids these days think the story is.
Makes me question everything I read or hear about other rock and rollers like Hendrix, Morrison etc.
Quote from: sadcorps on June 13, 2015, 12:53:06 AM
Makes me question everything I read or hear about other rock and rollers like Hendrix, Morrison etc.
This is the point I was waiting for someone to make. I think it could be expanded to include any celebrity/ public figure.
Somehow I manage to live my life without constantly hearing about Cobain, or Dave Grohl. It's not difficult, I wouldn't even say I have to try.
Quote from: sadcorps on June 13, 2015, 12:53:06 AM
I have met Buzz three times in my life (once in 1990, once in 1995 and hung with him for an hour in 2012) and each and every time he has been nothing but a really nice guy. When I hung out with him I found him to be exactly the same kind of guy he is in audio/video interviews - very funny, witty, sarcastic and opinionated - but not at all like a dick. He tells it like it is, like he sees it. And I am sure in the world of "real Kurt Cobain/Nirvana" versus the world of "public perception/media creation/brand management Kurt Cobain/Nirvana" he must feel like he is beating his head against a wall. Two totally different stories.
When I recorded the Hex album with Earth, I talked to Dylan Carlson a bit about Kurt and Courtney. I won't go into detail because they are stories that are not mine to share (as they are Dylan's) but I can tell you that what Buzz is saying in his editorial is very much along the lines of what Dylan told me. That shit was DARK and gross - nothing at all neat-o or whatever the kids these days think the story is.
Makes me question everything I read or hear about other rock and rollers like Hendrix, Morrison etc.
I've had the same number of encounters with buzz as you and I must agree. Buzz is very misunderstood and misinterpreted. He could be a comedian if we wanted to, his humor is off the charts. He's always extremely nice and caring when I get the chance to speak with him
How did he get the nickname King Buzzo?
Tupelo records owner Gary gave him that nickname because he said buzz was an opinonated asshole. Buzz liked the nickname. Theres an interview clarifying this but my crappy phone wont let me post it
Quote from: Buzzinthebox on June 13, 2015, 07:40:28 PM
Tupelo records owner Gary gave him that nickname because he said buzz was an opinonated asshole. Buzz liked the nickname. Theres an interview clarifying this but my crappy phone wont let me post it
I thought I heard Tom from Boner Records came up with that.
Quote from: meezer on June 13, 2015, 08:15:31 PM
Quote from: Buzzinthebox on June 13, 2015, 07:40:28 PM
Tupelo records owner Gary gave him that nickname because he said buzz was an opinonated asshole. Buzz liked the nickname. Theres an interview clarifying this but my crappy phone wont let me post it
I thought I heard Tom from Boner Records came up with that.
I'd take your word over mine
Quote from: Buzzinthebox on June 14, 2015, 12:52:37 AM
Quote from: meezer on June 13, 2015, 08:15:31 PM
Quote from: Buzzinthebox on June 13, 2015, 07:40:28 PM
Tupelo records owner Gary gave him that nickname because he said buzz was an opinonated asshole. Buzz liked the nickname. Theres an interview clarifying this but my crappy phone wont let me post it
I thought I heard Tom from Boner Records came up with that.
I'd take your word over mine
I'll search for it. I think that's when he started using it. During the Boner era.
Quote from: sadcorps on June 13, 2015, 12:53:06 AM
I have met Buzz three times in my life (once in 1990, once in 1995 and hung with him for an hour in 2012) and each and every time he has been nothing but a really nice guy. When I hung out with him I found him to be exactly the same kind of guy he is in audio/video interviews - very funny, witty, sarcastic and opinionated - but not at all like a dick. He tells it like it is, like he sees it. And I am sure in the world of "real Kurt Cobain/Nirvana" versus the world of "public perception/media creation/brand management Kurt Cobain/Nirvana" he must feel like he is beating his head against a wall. Two totally different stories.
So true. Every interaction I've ever had with Buzz, he has been very nice and genuine.