I interviewed Dale about his new solo LP. He was real cool. https://www.punknews.org/article/73817/interviews-dale-crover-of-the-melvins-on-his-new-solo-lp-the-bowie-mix-and-hell
Quote from: johnnyg on December 23, 2020, 04:12:16 PM
I interviewed Dale about his new solo LP. He was real cool. https://www.punknews.org/article/73817/interviews-dale-crover-of-the-melvins-on-his-new-solo-lp-the-bowie-mix-and-hell
nice, thanks
Great interview - I guess it helps if you are prepared with some slightly different questions!
And yeah, Dale is cool. One of the coolest musicians I ever met.
Really looking forward to the album!
Grim will be happy to know that Dale says the LA guns/rudimentary peni/melvins flyer is fake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMm7isRf7N8
https://music.mxdwn.com/2021/01/12/features/mxdwn-interview-dale-crover-on-new-solo-album-rat-a-tat-tat-melvins-1983-lineup-and-writing-in-garageband/
http://bigtakeover.com/interviews/InterviewDaleCroverMelvinsReddKross
Quote from: black stallion on January 21, 2021, 02:24:14 PM
http://bigtakeover.com/interviews/InterviewDaleCroverMelvinsReddKross
It's funny to imagine that exchange between Dale and Buzz when he handed him the vinyl. It sounds totally like Buzz to be completely blunt back about not being able to use it. Ha. An interesting little tidbit there about the opening and closing songs on 'Working With God' being fun. Then Dale mentioning farts always being funny. I suppose that means 'Good Night Sweetheart' will feature farts in some way or another. Im not particularly enthused about that news.
Ha Ha Ha!! Goddo. Oh no!
What's been your latest discovery that you think more people need to know about?
DALE: There's this band, they're an old band. They're from Canada and they're called Goddo. They are like some weird late '70s/early '80s hard rock band, sort of metal but some of their early stuff sounds almost glam in a way. I'd never heard of them before. Buzz had heard the song some place and he sent it to me and he's like, "What do you think of this? How come we never heard of this stuff?" and then I looked on iTunes and they had a whole bunch of records. I have no idea why nobody's ever heard of them.
(http://bigtakeover.com/interviews/InterviewDaleCroverMelvinsReddKross)
check another cool Dale interview (audio) http://wavve.link/filmcultpod
Quote from: black stallion on January 22, 2021, 01:49:58 AM
check another cool Dale interview (audio) http://wavve.link/filmcultpod
Melvins TV: Valentine's Day with the Dale Crover Band opening the show! I did suspect the next one would be for Valentine's Day. Makes me wonder if the 3rd Melvins TV one will feature Buzz and maybe Trevor doing the opening.
Quote from: ))))(((( on January 22, 2021, 08:39:27 AM
[...] Makes me wonder if the 3rd Melvins TV one will feature Buzz and maybe Trevor doing the opening.
That would be cool. I was listening to Freak Puke today. I like that release a LOT. I would like to hear more T.Dunn & Melvins to be honest, no lie.
Anyone know if Trevor is still in Eureka or Coalinga or whatever California farm town the Bungle boys are from? I remember the joint interview he and Buzz did for protonic reversal. He was in the house with the wood paneling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTaaYol_gXs
you made my night, thanks
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on January 29, 2021, 04:24:23 PM
Anyone know if Trevor is still in Eureka or Coalinga or whatever California farm town the Bungle boys are from? I remember the joint interview he and Buzz did for protonic reversal. He was in the house with the wood paneling.
As far as I know he's been living in NYC for years.
Quote from: Bigval on February 12, 2021, 09:05:14 PM
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on January 29, 2021, 04:24:23 PM
Anyone know if Trevor is still in Eureka or Coalinga or whatever California farm town the Bungle boys are from? I remember the joint interview he and Buzz did for protonic reversal. He was in the house with the wood paneling.
As far as I know he's been living in NYC for years.
Trey said the place he grew up around was like in that movie Gummo.
I can't see why anyone would stick around a place like that if they could help it.
Quote from: black stallion on February 12, 2021, 04:24:40 PM
you made my night, thanks
You're welcome. I liked some of the little tidbits that get mentioned. Things like how they pick the setlists. I doubt anyone would have ever guessed that Dale's wife recommends songs that she likes! It did make me laugh that he mentioned The Bit and Night Goat as songs they play a lot. Personally i think they shouldn't be played again for a LONG time. It was fascinating seeing Dale deal with that unexpected phone call and the answering machine too. Hahaha.
Conan Neutron is back with Dale for a chat!
https://www.protonicreversal.com/2021/02/16/ep230-dale-crover-melvins-redd-kross-dale-crover-band/
thanks, looks like i have a few things to do after the footbal match this afternoon
Quote from: black stallion on February 21, 2021, 06:59:11 AM
thanks, looks like i have a few things to do after the footbal match this afternoon
The Milan derby? I know you are an Inter fan but i have to say i hope AC win this year. I still think of them as a big club from back in the 90's when they ruled the football landscape. Plus i'd like to see Zlatan win the title with them.
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 21, 2021, 07:02:33 AM
Quote from: black stallion on February 21, 2021, 06:59:11 AM
thanks, looks like i have a few things to do after the footbal match this afternoon
The Milan derby? I know you are an Inter fan but i have to say i hope AC win this year. I still think of them as a big club from back in the 90's when they ruled the football landscape. Plus i'd like to see Zlatan win the title with them.
yep, i'm ready! Zlatan is great btw
https://youtu.be/N-0Y24x8_hE
Quote from: ))))(((( on February 13, 2021, 10:45:36 AM
I liked some of the little tidbits that get mentioned. Things like how they pick the setlists. I doubt anyone would have ever guessed that Dale's wife recommends songs that she likes!
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That was the most interesting part for me as well! I've always been curious as to how bands choose their setlists; sure, there are the most recent ones, the ones which are the public's favorites, and then, the rest... Do you folks happen to know how other bands choose "the rest", too?
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7dAUl7cBL3lfpkrTQyXqGy?nd=1
https://vinylwritermusic.com/an-interview-with-dale-crover-of-the-melvins/
https://intothepit.gr/en/melvins-interview-2021/
https://youtu.be/Cy7CCtyGCcI
https://youtu.be/CekPM27kjHs
Schnab clearly lost his mind. Not sure which butterviking language this is, but the pun of "dale" and "interview" is definitely not worth watching this 6 minute random boring youtube clip of an old man in a factory making string.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on March 25, 2021, 01:39:14 AM
Schnab clearly lost his mind. Not sure which butterviking language this is, but the pun of "dale" and "interview" is definitely not worth watching this 6 minute random boring youtube clip of an old man in a factory making string.
:lol:
https://www.metalsucks.net/2021/10/18/the-melvins-dale-crover-on-the-metalsucks-podcast-409/
https://youtu.be/iOVzLBbUROA
The Dale jersey:
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https://vwmusicrocks.com/an-interview-with-dale-crover-of-the-melvins-2/
This was informative! Thanks. I love Dale.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 08, 2022, 02:36:36 AM
This was informative! Thanks. I love Dale.
I have high expectations for the next Melvins album
Quote from: black stallion on April 08, 2022, 03:26:05 AM
I have high expectations for the next Melvins album
Yes, Dylan Carlson on a Melvins album!! Obviously it may end up nothing as we expect, but it seems this record could be quite a heavy one. It's funny that Dale gives this much away. Buzz would stay super tight lipped and say nothing! It is interesting to me what Dale says - it must be so frustrating sometimes being a musician. You record your album and want to put it straight out into the world and for people to hear it but then have to wait for months on end. That would drive me nuts!
https://youtu.be/CkwQUtha_Fg
Stoked to see that Dylan Carlson will be on a track!
But the best news? A reissue of Neurotica!
In 1987 there were two albums that ruled my world. Gluey Porch Treatments and Neurotica. Still my two favorite bands 35 years later!
Kinda shitty how interviewers treat Dale like he's not actually IN redd Kross and Steven like he's not IN the melvins.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 11, 2022, 06:01:18 PM
Kinda shitty how interviewers treat Dale like he's not actually IN redd Kross and Steven like he's not IN the melvins.
Yeah - they are both IN both bands. I do not see that changing.
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on April 11, 2022, 06:01:18 PM
Kinda shitty how interviewers treat Dale like he's not actually IN redd Kross and Steven like he's not IN the melvins.
To be completely honest, i kinda feel that way myself even though i understand that this isn't really the case. I mean Redd Kross at least "feels" like a temp gig for Dale. A side deal - something he may not do for too long. And with Melvins we've seen so many bassists come and go that WHOEVER was bassist it would still feel temporary. The core of Buzz and Dale is just so strong and enduring by comparison.
Quote from: black stallion on April 11, 2022, 04:18:18 PM
https://youtu.be/CkwQUtha_Fg
I like how Dale says that Houdini came out 20 years ago. 30 Dale, 30 years now!!!! Well, 29 actually to be precise.
Don't Stop believing!!! :love: :love: :love:
https://eu.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2022/05/20/home-dale-crover-melvins-drummer-enjoys-living-la-quinta/9801212002/
Quote from: black stallion on May 25, 2022, 08:51:52 AM
https://eu.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2022/05/20/home-dale-crover-melvins-drummer-enjoys-living-la-quinta/9801212002/
I'm sure that'd be a great read if not for that pesky paywall. So Dale moved out of LA too and in the same area where the Yawning Man dudes live, no less?
Quote from: CoryCory on May 25, 2022, 09:45:25 AM
Quote from: black stallion on May 25, 2022, 08:51:52 AM
https://eu.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2022/05/20/home-dale-crover-melvins-drummer-enjoys-living-la-quinta/9801212002/
I'm sure that'd be a great read if not for that pesky paywall. So Dale moved out of LA too and in the same area where the Yawning Man dudes live, no less?
this is a great interview. I can maybe copy/paste the full thing if you couldn't read it.
Nice to have another interview even if it is small, especially since things seem to have gone very quiet in Melvins land recently. Anyway it's interesting that both Buzz and Dale have moved now. I would have thought that after not being able to tour the band might have downsized but it seems Dale has gone up the property ladder!
Quote from: black stallion on May 25, 2022, 08:51:52 AM
https://eu.desertsun.com/story/life/entertainment/music/2022/05/20/home-dale-crover-melvins-drummer-enjoys-living-la-quinta/9801212002/
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QuoteAt home with Dale Crover: Melvins drummer enjoys his status as a new La Quinta resident
BRIAN BLUESKYE | Palm Springs Desert Sun
During a recent visit to Melvins drummer Dale Crover's new home in a La Quinta gated community, the first thing I see as he opens the door is an electronic drum set.
There's also a guitar amplifier and a keyboard, which he explained is for his two children. Crover also has a drum set in his garage. But how does his wife, Maureen Crover, feel about having one in the living room?
"She's like, 'There can be a drum set in here if it's a cute old Gretsch drum set,'" Crover said. "She's not happy, but my daughter will come out and play it, and it's cool to get (the children) interested in that, and we can jam together."
Crover joined Melvins in 1984 and also played with Nirvana in 1988 and 1990.
Melvins has a unique sludgy psychedelic sound that puts the group somewhere between hard rock and metal featured on all its albums since the band's 1987 debut "Gluey Porch Treatments." Atlantic Records signed the trio in 1993, the same year the musicians released their fifth record, "Houdini," which sold over 100,000 copies. The following albums "Stoner Witch" and "Stag" didn't do as well. Almost all of the group's releases since 1999 have been released on Ipecac Recordings.
In August 2021, the Crover family moved from their home in the Eagle Rock neighborhood of Los Angeles, a few blocks away from where singer-songwriter Billie Eilish lives, to La Quinta for reasons such as COVID-19 and the current real estate market. Maureen is also a Palm Desert native, and the family has spent every major holiday in the area for the past 23 years.
"Maybe we should have done moved a long time because it would have been better when the kids were younger," Crover said. "They were okay with leaving their friends. We had one bathroom for four of us and one thing we told our daughter was 'You can have your own bathroom if we move' and she's like 'OK, sounds good.'
Crover has been aware of the desert music scene's history for a while now, and even contributed to it through a few performances. In his now-home of La Quinta, he shops at Finders Keepers Records, and in the high desert, he has played several shows at Pappy and Harriet's. He's never played the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival, but attended once in 2003 to see a reunited Iggy Pop and the Stooges.
On June 16, Melvins will perform at Pappy and Harriet's with Helms Alee and Harsh Mellow.
One activity Crover enjoys since moving to the area is golf. He recently played at The Golf Club At Terra Lago and Indio Municipal Golf Course, and told a story about how he and bandmate Buzz Osborne played a round at a Los Angeles course with Afghan Whigs frontman Greg Dulli, who didn't recognize the duo at first.
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Melvins band members Dale Crover (left), Buzz Osborne (center) and Steve McDonald (right).
BRIAN BLUESKYE/THE DESERT SUN
"Buzz is really good, but I'm not very good and have a high handicap," Crover said. "There's so many golf courses out here and I've barely scratched the surface. Some places you look at, it doesn't seem real. I'm looking at the mountains around here and everything looks like it's on another planet."
What Crover lacks in his golf score he makes up for in his rock 'n' roll resume, which includes playing in the early years of the band Nirvana.
Growing up in the same town as Kurt Cobain
The town of Aberdeen, Washington on the Olympic Peninsula was an epicenter for the fishing, timber and tourism industries in the late 19th century. It's also labeled the "Hellhole of the Pacific" because of its past in the early 1900s as a haven for gambling, prostitution and murder. Starting in 1910, a bartender named Billy Gohl began murdering sailors and throwing their bodies into the Wishkah River.
The town never recovered from the financial hit of the Great Depression, and the 2020 documentary "The River" examines the many homeless encampments in the city.
Aberdeen is also where musicians such as Crover, Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain and Pansy Division bassist Chris Freeman grew up. Joining Melvins in 1984 would eventually provide a ticket out.
"There wasn't a lot to do besides play music and normal teenage stuff like looking for a way to get some beers," Crover said. "I think (playing in a band) saved me and got me out of there. We used to come home from school, rehearse for hours and maybe play one gig every couple of months."
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Melvins drummer Dale Crover in his La Quinta, Calif., home on May 18, 2022.
BRIAN BLUESKYE/THE DESERT SUN
Crover said many people he grew up with married, had children and never left the area. He struggled when asked what career options there would have been if music or getting out of the area wasn't an option.
"A crap job. Managing the Taco Bell or something," Crover said. "I would have figured something out and gotten out eventually because there's not much going on there."
It took some time before the music paid off. Melvins didn't realize what was in store for bands in proximity to the Seattle music scene during the late '80s and early '90s.
Nirvana went through several drummers during its early years. Crover first joined in 1988 to record a 10-song demo and joined again for a 1990 tour as the opening act for Sonic Youth. Some of the demo material featuring Crover is included on Nirvana's 2004 box set "With the Lights Out" and 2005 compilation "Sliver: The Best of the Box." A 1988 video of Crover performing with the group in a RadioShack store in Aberdeen is available on YouTube.
Drummer Dave Grohl joined Nirvana in 1990 right before recording sessions began for "Nevermind," which would launch the group into the mainstream. Crover said the band "needed a drummer like Dave."
"My only regret is they told me they would probably use me for 'Nevermind,' but it all worked out," Crover said.
But Nirvana's success provided other bands with opportunities.
Melvins performed on Lollapalooza while the event was still a traveling festival in 1996 and Ozzfest tour in 1998 after headliner Tool and its frontman Maynard James Keenan demanded the band be added to the roster of acts that also included Limp Bizkit, Megadeth and System of a Down.
"Tool said they wanted to bring a band they liked,'" Crover said. "Ozzfest said 'OK, well you have to pay them' and Tool said 'No, you have to pay them.' They both paid us. The guys were nice enough to let us ride on their bus and took care of our gear. Other bands are rarely like that."
Making it without a manager
Melvins finished a two-month tour with the industrial metal band Ministry in April, and the bandmates are heading out again for a month on their own in June. Crover said it felt "weird" going on the road again after being off for two years because of the COVID-19 pandemic but said it felt "normal" after two weeks.
Part of Melvins' success is because of the group's independence — and the absence of a manager. Osborne does most of the tour planning and tries to avoid long drives between dates. He keeps overhead costs down by asking for the food money venues provide for backstage riders to purchase their own meals from Whole Foods Market or nearby restaurants. But one expense hit the group hard during its previous tour.
"We were spending so much money on gas," Crover said. "(Ministry) had this tour booked a couple years ago and tried to salvage some dates and I think that's how they did the routing. The first show was Columbus, Ohio, then Pittsburgh, then back to Cincinnati and it was back and forth. At one point it went from Houston to Chicago, then Cleveland, Milwaukee, Detroit and St. Paul."
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Melvins drummer Dale Crover plays a drum set in the living room of his La Quinta, Calif., home on May 18, 2022.
BRIAN BLUESKYE/THE DESERT SUN
Tour buses, which are an enormous expense even for mainstream touring acts, have never appealed to Melvins.
"Sometimes bands get a taste of having a bus and the big rock star thing, and when that doesn't go well for them, they can't go back and tour like we do," Crover said.
Melvins don't get too many offers for festivals, but have played some in the past. Crover said while the paydays for festivals are better, there are drawbacks, such as being rushed to put equipment on and off stage and sound issues, which he remembers happening while playing in the supergroup Fantômas with Osborne and Faith No More frontman Mike Patton.
"I remember we were setting up, the sound people were confused about everything and trying to get anything in the (sound) monitors was chaos," Crover said. "It was disastrous because there was something going on with Mike's gear, but we got paid a ton of money."
Interest in Melvins has been growing over the years as music lovers have discovered the band for the first time or rediscovered its music years later. Crover said most bands have fans of the same age demographic, but every two years, he and his bandmates see younger people coming to shows.
Crover enjoys a cult status among music lovers, but few local residents have recognized him in public.
"I finally told (the next-door neighbor)," Crover said. "We were getting ready to leave on tour, had the van outside and I told him I was taking off. He was like, 'What? My sister really likes you guys and is going to see you in Austin, Texas.' It's better than having neighbors that don't talk to you or keep to themselves."
When asked if Crover enjoys living in a gated community, he said it's "weird" but in a good way.
"Once we first got in here, we'd drive by and everyone waved," Crover said. "Everybody's really nice. I've met a few other people in here and my wife's cousin is in here too."
Brian Blueskye covers arts and entertainment for the Desert Sun. He can be reached at brian.blueskye@desertsun.com or on Twitter at @bblueskye.
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Funny how Dale looks like some kind of mafia boss sat there in that first photo!
Thanks Butty
thanks for that. some good tidbits on the economics of their touring, which i've always been interested in.
just imagining Dale as a Taco Bell Manager, with Buzzo workin' the Grill:
huh-huh-huh, This like, sucks more than anything that has ever sucked before. Huh-huh.
Yea yea!!! it SUCKS!!! IT SUCKS!!! IT'S NOT FAIR DAMMIT!!! :buzz:
Dale is just a really nice guy.
Quote from: Nizamark on May 25, 2022, 07:23:49 PM
some good tidbits on the economics of their touring, which i've always been interested in.
my thought exactly
Quote from: Dumpster D on May 25, 2022, 08:35:45 PM
just imagining Dale as a Taco Bell Manager, with Buzzo workin' the Grill:
I would hope Buzz would shout nonwords to the kitchen as he takes your order.
Guest: two bean and cheese burritos...
Buzz: Like steel moanin' Ludlow!
Guest: and, uh, a Mexican pizza with no tomato
Buzz: I can low like a hundred well dole, mm!
Quote from: amazonAMAZON on May 26, 2022, 11:08:09 AM
Quote from: Dumpster D on May 25, 2022, 08:35:45 PM
just imagining Dale as a Taco Bell Manager, with Buzzo workin' the Grill:
I would hope Buzz would shout nonwords to the kitchen as he takes your order.
Guest: two bean and cheese burritos...
Buzz: Like steel moanin' Ludlow!
Guest: and, uh, a Mexican pizza with no tomato
Buzz: I can low like a hundred well dole, mm!
https://youtu.be/w93VCLyOvB0
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on May 25, 2022, 10:23:32 AM
At home with Dale Crover: Melvins drummer enjoys his status as a new La Quinta resident
When I read this headline, I thought maybe he was having trouble with the missus and was living in a motel now.
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My wife's first job out of college was at the Desert Sun.
https://www.spreaker.com/user/heavy/melvins-dale-crover-interview
https://heavymag.com.au/bad-moon-rising-with-dale-crover-from-melvins/
Australian tour is on the cards next year for the Melvins 40th anniversary :D
Quote from: Bigval on November 19, 2022, 05:43:06 AM
https://heavymag.com.au/bad-moon-rising-with-dale-crover-from-melvins/
Australian tour is on the cards next year for the Melvins 40th anniversary :D
Fantastic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGQ6MRwSGqg
thanks :D :lol:
https://youtu.be/qRgQuEUTHjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFUqsQJ7zk8
i enjoyed this interview a lot, you can tell the guy had many things to ask. been listening to Hammering again after Dale revealed that song has been influenced by Bowie and ZZTop, i can definitely see the Bowie connection. also it's true that the new album has a lot of melody and songs sound pretty various. i wonder if this new approach with Steven and Buzz working on a demo and giving it to Dale will bring a new direction in the band, it could be. ah, Men of Porn to me sounds as a great name for a band :buzz:
Does it seem like Buzz has been less involved in the BMR interviews? I am seeing a lot of just Steven and just Dale interviews lately. Buzz is (typically) more guarded about his responses to interview questions. More cryptic. Dale and Steve read like an open book. Seems like we get better info from those guys.
I liked that he said he still keeps in touch with Al Cisneros!
Quote from: the bloat on January 02, 2023, 06:09:03 PM
Seems like we get better info from those guys.
Very true. Although for myself, since i know Buzz is the main contributor i always prefer to hear from him usually as a fan.
Quote from: ))))(((( on January 02, 2023, 06:24:40 PM
Very true. Although for myself, since i know Buzz is the main contributor i always prefer to hear from him usually as a fan.
I always remember an interview Buzz did with Fantomas in Germany around 1999-2000 time it was a longform interview with all four guys sitting at a bar drinking coffees.
Lombardo was slagging off Kerry King and Slayer, funnily enough he rejoined the band a few years later but when it came to Buzz he just went on this funny OTT rant that culminated with him talking about how Germans are wimps for losing WWII and how much he hates Volvo's and every time he sees one driving in LA he just wants to ram it. He then stops himself has a sip of his coffee and says that's enough Melvins talk :lol:
My brother and I recently started talking again after four years and anytime he or I goes on a rant about something the other one says "that's enough Melvins talk" lol
That is my single favorite Buzzo interview :lol:
Trevor goes, "Buzz challenges you." :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: ))))(((( on January 02, 2023, 06:24:40 PM
I liked that he said he still keeps in touch with Al Cisneros!
I've always been curious as to why they never released the supposed second shrinebuilder album. I remember hearing someone saying in an interview or something that it's because Al Cisneros is crazy. He doesn't seem crazy to me but I guess it doesn't matter anymore because they probably won't release it because of the stuff with Scott Kelly. I like Sleep, I like Om, and I like shrinebuilder. Just wants me some more.
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on January 04, 2023, 07:53:31 AM
I've always been curious as to why they never released the supposed second shrinebuilder album. I remember hearing someone saying in an interview or something that it's because Al Cisneros is crazy. He doesn't seem crazy to me but I guess it doesn't matter anymore because they probably won't release it because of the stuff with Scott Kelly. I like Sleep, I like Om, and I like shrinebuilder. Just wants me some more.
It was Wino who said Al was crazy. I loved Shrinebuilder at the time and always wanted a second, third and hell, fourth record! but part of me is glad they never came. Perhaps i wouldn't like it as much and would be always comparing the two. As it is, the self titled sits back there in it's timeframe as an interesting artifact - a point where 4 fascinating musicians temporarily intersected to create as one.
Quote from: ))))(((( on January 04, 2023, 08:10:59 AM
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on January 04, 2023, 07:53:31 AM
I've always been curious as to why they never released the supposed second shrinebuilder album. I remember hearing someone saying in an interview or something that it's because Al Cisneros is crazy. He doesn't seem crazy to me but I guess it doesn't matter anymore because they probably won't release it because of the stuff with Scott Kelly. I like Sleep, I like Om, and I like shrinebuilder. Just wants me some more.
It was Wino who said Al was crazy. I loved Shrinebuilder at the time and always wanted a second, third and hell, fourth record! but part of me is glad they never came. Perhaps i wouldn't like it as much and would be always comparing the two. As it is, the self titled sits back there in it's timeframe as an interesting artifact - a point where 4 fascinating musicians temporarily intersected to create as one.
And also because of ehm... you know... Scott Kelly.
Quote from: Stonergrunge on January 04, 2023, 08:41:13 AM
Quote from: ))))(((( on January 04, 2023, 08:10:59 AM
Quote from: Colonel Cheese on January 04, 2023, 07:53:31 AM
I've always been curious as to why they never released the supposed second shrinebuilder album. I remember hearing someone saying in an interview or something that it's because Al Cisneros is crazy. He doesn't seem crazy to me but I guess it doesn't matter anymore because they probably won't release it because of the stuff with Scott Kelly. I like Sleep, I like Om, and I like shrinebuilder. Just wants me some more.
It was Wino who said Al was crazy. I loved Shrinebuilder at the time and always wanted a second, third and hell, fourth record! but part of me is glad they never came. Perhaps i wouldn't like it as much and would be always comparing the two. As it is, the self titled sits back there in it's timeframe as an interesting artifact - a point where 4 fascinating musicians temporarily intersected to create as one.
And also because of ehm... you know... Scott Kelly.
I don't think Kelly was too far off the rails at that point in time. Signs point to Wino butting heads with Cisneros (likely over religion, as he did the same thing with Victor Griffin and Place of Skulls a decade prior) and over time none of the three other guys wanting to work with him.
I'll try to come up with a post-SB timeline as best I can:
2011 - Shrinebuilder play Roadburn, their last show.
2012 - Scott Kelly states there probably won't be a second record.
2013 - Scott Kelly guests with Melvins
2014 - the Wino interview, Wino getting arrested in Europe for meth. His ban may finally get lifted this year.
2015 - the Hellfest interview where Dale mentions conflicts and Buzz interjects with "JuNkIeS".
2016 / 2017 - Cisneros guests with Melvins
2022 - Kelly's career ends
Appreciate the timeline. I didn't know about the drug thing or the religion argument stuff with wino. Thanks.
i think that timeline is very accurate
https://astralnoizeuk.com/2023/01/16/the-stink-of-influence-in-conversation-with-the-melvins-dale-crover/
wait a moment ,so the Taipei Houston guys are Lars Urlich's sons? :shock:
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Quote from: black stallion on January 17, 2023, 03:39:33 PM
https://astralnoizeuk.com/2023/01/16/the-stink-of-influence-in-conversation-with-the-melvins-dale-crover/
I wonder what the hold up is with this Helms Alee work. That seems to have first been mentioned years ago!
From Dale's comments, it sounds like Bullhead may be getting a reissue or something this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nCUIQdl2vI
Quote from: black stallion on January 17, 2023, 06:19:06 PM
wait a moment ,so the Taipei Houston guys are Lars Urlich's sons? :shock:
i had heard that but couldn't confirm it from their fb or bios.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/lars-ulrichs-sons-band-taipei-houston-announce-debut-album-once-bit-never-bored-3310395
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 04, 2023, 05:11:21 PM
From Dale's comments, it sounds like Bullhead may be getting a reissue or something this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nCUIQdl2vI
great great interview. Now i'm totally excited for the band future releases, wonder what Dale meant when he mentioned Bullhead
Quote from: black stallion on March 05, 2023, 06:34:28 AM
Now i'm totally excited for the band future releases, wonder what Dale meant when he mentioned Bullhead
He said it a little bit knowingly too. The automatic response would be to conclude that he means it will get reissued. After all that is one of the old classics that hasn't had the Haze treatment yet. But part of me wonders if it's more than that. Maybe a new re-recorded version in some weird way or something to tie into the 40th year. I don't know, i guess we shall find out soon enough.
our buddy Jeff Grindstopher is gonna interview Dale today. prob for Sick Drummer. soliciting questions on the fb group. 8)
Quote from: vince furnier on March 05, 2023, 09:15:41 AM
our buddy Jeff Grindstopher is gonna interview Dale today. prob for Sick Drummer. soliciting questions on the fb group. 8)
isn't the interview Ian just posted?
Quote from: black stallion on March 05, 2023, 09:20:53 AM
Quote from: vince furnier on March 05, 2023, 09:15:41 AM
our buddy Jeff Grindstopher is gonna interview Dale today. prob for Sick Drummer. soliciting questions on the fb group. 8)
isn't the interview Ian just posted?
Yeah. i'm dumb. he posted it Friday. got confused. :lol:
Didn't listen to the interview but could he just be referring to this:
https://shop.brooklynvegan.com/products/melvins-bullhead-lp-w-mackie-osborne-12-x-12-screen-print-color-vinyl?_pos=3&_sid=126c2df25&_ss=r (https://shop.brooklynvegan.com/products/melvins-bullhead-lp-w-mackie-osborne-12-x-12-screen-print-color-vinyl?_pos=3&_sid=126c2df25&_ss=r)
https://audioboom.com/posts/8267631-dale-crover-and-tobi-vail-are-back
Quote from: black stallion on April 09, 2023, 02:37:44 AM
https://audioboom.com/posts/8267631-dale-crover-and-tobi-vail-are-back
home honey, i'm high! :toke:
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https://consequence.net/video/two-for-the-road-melvins-dale-crover-mr-bungle-dave-lombardo/?fbclid=PAAabxZYbv5ktmgarsNKHLM5FXarpYaHOjfnONHm0oTFJq0Q7zoMrYiy_oBeY
new Dale Crover profile blowing up my notifications. seems kinda phishy but the pics seem legit. :lol:https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100092991301873 (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100092991301873)
That is fake- please report to Facebook and block that page
Quote from: Snivlemdotcom on May 25, 2023, 11:20:55 AM
That is fake- please report to Facebook and block that page
:D
there's only one Dale Crover
Mission accomplished!
Imposter gone
Not really much new stuff mentioned here. But Dale does say he would love to play all of Bad Mood Rising live plus his daughter is travelling with them to the UK when they do the shows. Which seems a bit unexpected or unconventional by Melvins usual touring standards. A family vacation!
https://louderthanwar.com/the-melvins-interview-with-drummer-dale-crover/
I really do wish they would play Bad Mood Rising in it's entirety live - it is such an amazing album. Now I really want an English Breakfast.
Quote from: John Schuller on May 26, 2023, 09:53:25 PM
I really do wish they would play Bad Mood Rising in it's entirety live - it is such an amazing album. Now I really want an English Breakfast.
Beans and blood sausage on toast, hold the kidney please!
https://circuitsweet.co.uk/2023/06/gavin-brown-takes-on-melvins-interview-with-dale-crover-40th-anniversary-interview-special/
Quote from: ))))(((( on June 06, 2023, 06:05:17 PM
https://circuitsweet.co.uk/2023/06/gavin-brown-takes-on-melvins-interview-with-dale-crover-40th-anniversary-interview-special/
Great interview! Thanks for sharing
1993 from the Olympian newspaper
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Quote from: Bobby Fever on July 19, 2023, 05:46:56 PM
1993 from the Olympian newspaper
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These were great reads! Thanks!
Prime and prawns for $14 on Valentine's!
so Neil Young got some Melvins stuff?cool!
I was at that Melvins Midnight show at the Capitol Theater in Olympia. It was during that brief moment when Lorax came back to the band after Joe was canned. The Melvins were on fire that night - I remember Buzz playing the Purple Haze lick during the intro to It's Shoved and thinking "Fuck yeah!!". That was a fucking magical show - if I remember right, the Melvan was in the alley. But I could be mistaken. I know the Melvins would not have been driving it by then.
I saw one other Melvins Midnight show at the Capitol Theater on the Stag tour - that was also amazing. I wish they still did Midnight shows at the Captiol.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dale-crover-the-melvins-altamont-redd-kross/id1631637847?i=1000637059914
Thanks black stallion
https://youtu.be/xYM95OwO7jE?feature=shared
https://beardedgentlemenmusic.com/2024/05/14/crushed-monocle-podcast-episode-36-dale-crover-of-the-melvins/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR18uUxJIi5queoBMV_DtN1uByCOIF0aWH3y4sS67slYNh_VmlrpI0csSzo_aem_AXZNWDRY6npgtjn5UnXJ0ojJrA0AHh_mxacYjTqFyErsCb0wd2eokO0DpySGjhQ4yvSP97Ucgj_Alqk0Og8OLKX4
Quote from: black stallion on May 15, 2024, 04:07:43 PMhttps://beardedgentlemenmusic.com/2024/05/14/crushed-monocle-podcast-episode-36-dale-crover-of-the-melvins/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR18uUxJIi5queoBMV_DtN1uByCOIF0aWH3y4sS67slYNh_VmlrpI0csSzo_aem_AXZNWDRY6npgtjn5UnXJ0ojJrA0AHh_mxacYjTqFyErsCb0wd2eokO0DpySGjhQ4yvSP97Ucgj_Alqk0Og8OLKX4
In the interview Dale said he was recording something for Melvins on Saturday which based around what they said about Albini's death would have been last weekend. Buzz mentioned recently doing some recording with two guys from Napalm Death in May. So can we presume this is the same project?!!? I wonder what two guys it is. For some reason i imagine it's Barney and Shane.
Shane definitely (based only on the evidence of their camaraderie on stage, Buzz and Shane).
Danny Herrera was also drumming in Venomous Concept so my guess would be a dual drummer scenario again.
It's funny that Dale's involvement in Low-Flying Hawks is completely absent from his discography on Wikipedia. Same with Trevor Dunn too.
https://www.stereogum.com/2279982/dale-crover-melvins-solo-album-nirvana-kiss/interviews/weve-got-a-file-on-you/
Weird flub in this. Unleashed in the East is a Judas Priest album, not Iron Maiden. Could it have been mis-transcribed? Might he have meant Unleash the Beast?
https://open.spotify.com/episode/14IordVsU6Y2npFzupJm2c?si=OX-89I9RSrS20FYfCwM1TQ
Quote from: black stallion on March 27, 2025, 09:15:21 AMhttps://open.spotify.com/episode/14IordVsU6Y2npFzupJm2c?si=OX-89I9RSrS20FYfCwM1TQ
Imagine if the bigger band that Dale talks about working with ends up being Sleep!!!!
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 27, 2025, 11:01:10 AMQuote from: black stallion on March 27, 2025, 09:15:21 AMhttps://open.spotify.com/episode/14IordVsU6Y2npFzupJm2c?si=OX-89I9RSrS20FYfCwM1TQ
Imagine if the bigger band that Dale talks about working with ends up being Sleep!!!!
Don't get me too excited
oh shit can you imagine
Quote from: Nizamark on March 27, 2025, 03:55:17 PMoh shit can you imagine
Well, it's probably not too likely. As much as i like Dale, i can't really see his style within Sleep. But you never know. Going by what he said in the interview it seemed that it was an already established band and maybe not some new project with known musicians. So i'm just trying to think of fairly well known acts who require a new drummer.
mmmh, after listening with more attention i could definitely see that band being Sleep!
Dale is drumming on new Sleep lp. It started out being a couple tracks recorded (with Toshi I think) and they liked the results enough to record more material. It remains to be seen whether Dale will touring with Sleep and become a member of band. It will be difficult to carve out time with Melvins doing Spring US tour, summer European tour with Redd Kross, and fall US tour with Redd Kross. I think High on Fire have upcoming tours as well.
Bring it Dale!!
Username?
...Seems legit.
that part where he says people will get excited and if you know Melvins you know this band well made me think of Sleep. Their manager recently fired J.Roeder ,the drummer (coincidence?) ,and If i remember correctly Matt Pike in a interview said Sleep will probably work on something new. i could obviously be wrong but which other band could it be?
Dale said in some interview last year that he keeps in touch with Al. So it's certainly possible. I still think it's a bit shady on Jason Roeder. As exciting as it would be with Dale, personally i think they should have just stuck with him. Between Melvins and Redd Kross, crover would be stretched pretty thin. I'd hate to see Melvins productivity impeded by a Sleep tour.
i might be wrong but he said this thing should happen next year so let's see what happens.my guess (if our speculations should be correct) is Sleep will be playing some selected big shows, paycheck for Sleep must be pretty good compared to RK's. i see this thing being not so impossible. maybe they already recorded something , could be some single like they did with The Clarity.
could this be a return to the Ozma style?? :shock: :shock: I'm thoroughly intrigued.
and yes I think dale will tour with sleep if this is all real. ya kidding me?? he wants a piece of those merch sales. I promise you that.
Quote from: black stallion on March 28, 2025, 08:32:34 AMmaybe they already recorded something , could be some single like they did with The Clarity.
He said they went to record a few songs and ended up doing an album. So it seems it's already done. Any significance that 4/20 is coming up soon!!! Although he did say "next year".
Quote from: ))))(((( on March 28, 2025, 08:51:42 AMQuote from: black stallion on March 28, 2025, 08:32:34 AMmaybe they already recorded something , could be some single like they did with The Clarity.
He said they went to record a few songs and ended up doing an album. So it seems it's already done. Any significance that 4/20 is coming up soon!!! Although he did say "next year".
HOF is still going hard right now. I say it's next year. and while we're at it let's all say a little prayer that this also opens up an opportunity for another coming of Big Business.
Quote from: glen on March 28, 2025, 09:40:54 AMQuote from: ))))(((( on March 28, 2025, 08:51:42 AMQuote from: black stallion on March 28, 2025, 08:32:34 AMmaybe they already recorded something , could be some single like they did with The Clarity.
He said they went to record a few songs and ended up doing an album. So it seems it's already done. Any significance that 4/20 is coming up soon!!! Although he did say "next year".
HOF is still going hard right now. I say it's next year. and while we're at it let's all say a little prayer that this also opens up an opportunity for another coming of Big Business.
yes!!
Quote from: glen on March 28, 2025, 09:40:54 AMlet's all say a little prayer that this also opens up an opportunity for another coming of Big Business.
I saw Coady post on Insta a few months ago about doing a lot of recording recently. That made me think it was for BB.