interview from july 1.

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Fast and Bulbous

"you'd think that it would perpetually get hotter, not fluctuate so much."

Actually, that was part of Al Gore's whole point. One of the things he pointed out in his movie (which every one here should watch) was that Temperatures are fluctuating at a ridiculous degree. "Global Warming" is kind of a misnomer. It's really all about climate change that is out of our control. The vast majority of scientists acknowledge its existence, save for the ones who are paid by the oil companies.

FartLips

and the ones who claim we are the cause dont get huge grants from ultra liberal or socialist entities and other countries?  china is by far the worst polluter in the world, care to do something about that?  who pays who?  global warming is more a political scheme than anything else.
Judy is mad.🤣

Vcavallo

Quote from: FART LIPS on August 02, 2006, 01:59:46 PM

this is where threads get really long. btw, while the planet has warmed a single degree in the last 100 years, our participation in such has yet to be proven by any scale.
Vinney "only takes 15 years to make good on his promises" Cavallo

Fast and Bulbous

Quote from: FART LIPS on August 02, 2006, 02:22:08 PM
and the ones who claim we are the cause dont get huge grants from ultra liberal or socialist entities and other countries?  china is by far the worst polluter in the world, care to do something about that?  who pays who?  global warming is more a political scheme than anything else.

Do you where a tinfoil hat? Where do you get the idea that all climatologists are conspiring to initiate socialism? What is to be gained from such a venture? Your posts clearly reflect a general lack of knowledge on the science of global warming, and/or an unwillingness to admit that the political right may have been misled on this issue.

Fast and Bulbous


FartLips

Quote from: Fast and Bulbous on August 02, 2006, 09:32:28 PM
Quote from: FART LIPS on August 02, 2006, 02:22:08 PM
and the ones who claim we are the cause dont get huge grants from ultra liberal or socialist entities and other countries?
Judy is mad.🤣

Vcavallo

first of all, don't trust "trusted magazines".  peer-reviewed journals are the only reliable source of information.

my final thought is this: even if it is all wrong, somehow the science is incorrect, what do we lose by acting as if global warming is occurring?  it can only make things better.    recycling, sustainable fuels, energy conservation, clean power, less driving, more trees, etc.  all this stuff is great and will only improve quality of life.  how can anyone be an enemy of anti-global warming efforts? 
it is unethical, selfish, foolish, and probably un-patriotic (whatever the appropriate word for that may be). 

can someone think of a downside to cleaning up our act? 

i bet less people would get cancer.
Vinney "only takes 15 years to make good on his promises" Cavallo

FartLips

Judy is mad.🤣

Vcavallo

i tend to agree with what you are saying about both sides being equally guilty of attempting to cause panic.  i guess what i think (and this is my immediate reaction to your post, without thinking or researching at all, which is usually bad) is that The Truth about these complicated issues [i.e. is there climate change, what exactly is causing it, how would taking steps in the direction of fixing it effect capitalism, etc.] is so twisted and buried, that I believe it is possible that it may be beyond our ability to locate and define.  We are a pretty intelligent species, but we are also very emotional.  i'm not sure why i said that, but it seems that it could effect our ability to arrive at a truth.
i guess all i am saying is that whether or not it is true, if the fact that it may be true can motivate a small amount of global change should be capitalized on, and work should be done to set those changes in motion on the individual level.  EVERYTHING is global, and global = political, and political = propaganda, deception, selfishness.  There's no way we'll arrive at a fundamental kernel of truth; the way i see it, i'd rather risk capitalism and the ability to generate wealth, than risk the environment along with our and future generations' abilities to continue living.
seems to me like it is a large enough issue that even a shadow of risk should be addressed immediately.

Vinney "only takes 15 years to make good on his promises" Cavallo

Michael

Could you please link or list the issues of the peer-reviewed journals that you claim to dispute the theory that human beings have a significant impact on climate change?  Debating back and forth is all well and good but I would like to see the cold hard facts. 

I have many, many problems with Al Gore but when it comes to his stance on global warming, the guy is incredibly informed.  And all of the information he dispurses throughout "An Inconvenient Truth" are easily verifiable and accountable.  The vast majority of the facts come from peer-reviewed articles from Nature and other scientific journals. 

By the by, he never said so blatantly, "I invented the internet".  That is just some of the twisted jargon disseminated from his political opponents, the same twisted facts you purport to disdain.  It was something that got blown out of proportion and became an easy sound bite to attack a man who was much more suited and prepared for the presidency.  I cannot imagine George Bush speaking eloquently or passionately about anything, like Al Gore does when it comes to global warming.   

Vcavallo

Vinney "only takes 15 years to make good on his promises" Cavallo

norecess



Here's a picture that was on the website the interview can be found. Nice subtle Gun Club reference there on Buzz's shirt.

CaptainPungent

hah!
if he wore that shirt now-a-days he'd be mistaken for claudio of coheed and cambria.
(i spent 30 minutes trying to find those fucker's names asking every girl i knew...a lot goes into my jokes)

Vcavallo

Quote from: CaptainPungent on August 05, 2006, 03:14:42 PM
(i spent 30 minutes trying to find those fucker's names asking every girl i knew...a lot goes into my jokes)

have you heard of google?  it's this great invention of the modern world.
Vinney "only takes 15 years to make good on his promises" Cavallo

mopafeena

Quote from: Vcavallo on August 06, 2006, 01:42:58 AM
Quote from: CaptainPungent on August 05, 2006, 03:14:42 PM
(i spent 30 minutes trying to find those fucker's names asking every girl i knew...a lot goes into my jokes)

have you heard of google?
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