Rest of 2004 Tour Dates Cancelled

[anaconda]

Dale plays lead drums, he can't be replaced.

[FartLips]

buzz and dale are like a cock and balls, you really need em both.

[Vcavallo]

indeed.  which is the cock and which is the balls(s)?

[Vcavallo]

Buzz is worth the $ by himself. Although, they'd have to change the tickets to "the Melvin".

HAHA!

[Ozma]

Does someone knows preciseley who is ill and what is the desease ?

[Reverend Ebeneezer]

Reverend Ebeneezer said:

As it stands, I hope that all the guys are OK, but stand by my assertion that if it was anyone but Buzz, they should've replaced that member and carried on.

Waaaaait a minute. Are you saying that if Dale was out of the picture they should have carried on as the Melvins? A different bass player I could live with, especially if it meant that they could finish the tour, but if Dale wasn't there I'd be so fucking pissed off. He's more important to the Melvins than Bonham was to Led Zeppelin, Moon was to The Who, etc. Mind you, I'd still go to the show no matter what, because Buzz is worth the $ by himself. Although, they'd have to change the tickets to "the Melvin".

I'm not saying kick him out of the band, I'm saying that he's a drummer, OK? Someone else could've learned his parts and still toured instead of pissing off a legion of fans by staying home...it's not like Dale sings anything they play live and whilst I think he's totally awesome, he could've been replaced for the sake of the tour. If it's a problem on Kevin's end, get another bassist...It's that simple. I'm a little miffed today as my ticket came through in the mail meaning that if I didn't have internet access I'd still assume I was all set to go to a Melvins show. Frankly, this whole thing stinks and it's a fucking travesty that the greatest band in the world once again misses out on touring europe.

I mean for fuck's sake! Buzz toured hear with bloody Fantomas! Fantomas for god's sake! So he can get over for Mike Patton's audio wankery but won't bring his own band.

I know, yeah, yeah, it's insensitive but I'd been fucking stoked about the show and now it just ain't goting to happen for a fucking age. Needless to say they'll tour the fucking US all next year like they did all of this one and fuck everyone else over again. It just ain't fair...

[PudgyGutterfly]

Hey. Long time board lurker but this is my first post. I don't want to add to the speculation, except to say that I saw the Melvins in Spartanburg a couple of weeks ago, and they totally rocked the house. If Kevin was having troubles playing the songs, I certainly didn't notice. But, towards the end of the set, Kevin left the stage for a good 5 minutes. Buzz, Dale, and the stage hand seemed a little confused about Kevin's sudden departure.  Dale broke into a rythmn, and Buzz worked the crowd for a few minutes. Most I've ever heard King talk during a set actually.

Anyway, Kevin did return to the stage and they finished the set gloriously. It's not that often the Melvins make it down to the Southeast, but I never miss them when they do. I wish em all the best.

[Galvano]

it's not like Dale sings anything they play live

Wrong. Dale sings.


Also, Drummers are hard to find. Most of the time they have developed a certain style over the years.
Even more so if they are self tought, I find "schooled" musicians(sp?) (especially drummers) to be boring and without souls.
Dale is the kind of drummer whom has been building up his own style.
Buzz may do most of the songwriting, but when Dale sits down and adds his flavor, it's gonna take off to another level.
As a songwriter, this is the experience I have with drummers.
You just can't force a drummer to play 100% what you want them to play, so you need to find a drummer who's style you are comfortable with.
I'm pretty sure Buzz would never go on as "Melvins" without Dale.

[Rembrandt Pussyhorse]

no dale = no melvins

[Jess]

i talked to kevin for a while the night after the louisville show.  if he was really fucked up the night before i couldn't tell.  he seemed healthy as could be and during the show he didn't stumble around much, although he did play especially sloppy, even for kevin.

let's keep the rumor mill churnin.  if buzz DOES fire him, i am the next logical choice for bassist.  i'm so cute the melvins will be on trl in no time.  we'll have a 22 min video for pigs that gets voted #1 everyday and it's so long there's no time for any others.  

[Phil Redmon]

Doesn't Dale sing on, like, every song? All the time?

[Vcavallo]

don't let me down with stupid posts like this, reverend.  i thought you were above that....  nobody could replace dale, ever.  any melvins fan knows that dale IS the sound.  (the SOUND, mind you, not the songwriting.)  maybe...MAYBE..someone could learn his parts, but nobody has the same style, drumming isn't just technicality, it is mostly finesse and style.  dale is absolutely irreplaceable.  there is more personality in drumming than there is in any other instrument (aside from vocals).  they are the only acoustic instrument in the back bone of rock.  i don't care how much you finesse say, a keyboard, a digital output signal is a digital output signal.  the same goes, to a lesser degree, for electronic stringed instrument.  i am not saying there is no style involved in guitaring, but alot of the sound manipulation has to do with exactly that, sound manipulation by means of electronics and knowledge of sound behavior and whatnot, as opposed to purely physical manipulation, as is the case with drums.

i understand that you are very upset, and i feel really bad for you in your situation.  i also understand why such an emotional state would make you say the things you had about dale, but i hope that when you come you your senses you will realize that crover is not replaceable (not as "the melvins").  i hope you get to see the melvins this year, no fan deserves to get let down that hard.

[Joe Deutrom]

i talked to kevin for a while the night after the louisville show.  if he was really fucked up the night before i couldn't tell.  he seemed healthy as could be and during the show he didn't stumble around much, although he did play especially sloppy, even for kevin.

let's keep the rumor mill churnin.  if buzz DOES fire him, i am the next logical choice for bassist.  i'm so cute the melvins will be on trl in no time.  we'll have a 22 min video for pigs that gets voted #1 everyday and it's so long there's no time for any others.  

Hey Steve I was at this show too and from my vantage point, Kevin did stumble around and fell down quite a bit. He kept dropping his slide and was not even playing bass on some of the songs. Before the show started, I saw Kevin at the merchandise table and he appeared fine to me. It was strange. All I know is he wasn't right.


Hey Eb I feel bad for you, but I don't think it would be the Melvins without Dale. They work so well together. They are not like Megadeth or anything where you can just bring in anybody to play drums, bass, etc.

[Vcavallo]

HELEN WIGGINS!  HELEN WIGGINS FOR PRESIDENT!!!

[Leroy]

which one is sick, gosh darnit?