New Interview with Buzzo

[Pelican]

The MetalSucks interview was pretty much the response I expected. Unfortunately there's probably going to be a lot of people lining up to cancel him and the Melvins now. Oh well. I'm sure most of us will be doing some explaining about this in the future too. The Brooklyn Vegan FB comments section is already absurd. (I know, it always is)

[LuckMach3]

Unfortunately there's probably going to be a lot of people lining up to cancel him and the Melvins now.

Nah people are waking up to how damaging "hattting" everything truly is.  See my other thread for more details.  Buzz, you, and me will all be fine.   

[Chief Ten Beers]

Unbelievable , but then again, not so much. Buzz has nothing to apologize for. I'm glad he's standing his ground. Fuck these liberal fuck-tards and their PC bullshit. Go to hell losers. I first noticed this shit brewing on he Electrical Audio forum, people shit talking Buzz over a 2 yr old interview where he said nothing wrong. There are quite a few extreme liberal cucks hanging out there.
Metalsucks.com is and has been an absolute embarrassment of a website. I bookmarked it awhile ago, just to read general "metal" headlines. They're getting worse every day.  I've noticed they've been trying to go back and dig up any dirt on anyone for saying anything that's so called sexist/racist/ or not in view with the mainstream media(covid stuff).

[LuckMach3]

Unbelievable , but then again, not so much. Buzz has nothing to apologize for. I'm glad he's standing his ground. Fuck these liberal fuck-tards and their PC bullshit. Go to hell losers. I first noticed this shit brewing on he Electrical Audio forum, people shit talking Buzz over a 2 yr old interview where he said nothing wrong. There are quite a few extreme liberal cucks hanging out there.
Metalsucks.com is and has been an absolute embarrassment of a website. I bookmarked it awhile ago, just to read general "metal" headlines. They're getting worse every day.  I've noticed they've been trying to go back and dig up any dirt on anyone for saying anything that's so called sexist/racist/ or not in view with the mainstream media(covid stuff).

Damn dude you've really got some anger hangups 

I get where these "libcucks" are coming from.  Language can be very damaging.  Sometimes they don't quite get if it's coming from a place of "hate" or if it's just a light hearted joke or something.  Society has fucked us all up and it gets hard to tell sometimes.  Try to show some empathy towards them instead of telling them to "go to hell" or something.  You may find you have more common ground with them than you think.

[deatheats]

As a fairly left person myself, I always want to remind the newbies to the Democratic party that there is a long history of censorship from such people as Tipper Gore* and the PMRC (Parents Music Resource Center) and other moral concern police on the right AND left we've seen over the decades who spend their time fighting artists instead of ending war. 

I have a huge problem with people who ignore the elephant in the room (global capitalism & war run amok) while ranting about a Trader Jose product name because of its 'racist' overtones.   This is one of those issues. You are wasting everyone's valuable time and energy worrying about shit like this (with only a sliver of info they are basing their opinion on) while the world burns.


*To go on a tangent...Al Gore's VP running mate, Joe Lieberman, was almost single-handedly responsible for preventing the passage of a public option for Obamacare.  Some 'liberals' are pieces of shit too.

[LuckMach3]

As a fairly left person myself, I always want to remind the newbies to the Democratic party that there is a long history of censorship from such people as Tipper Gore* and the PMRC (Parents Music Resource Center) and other moral concern police on the right AND left we've seen over the decades who spend their time fighting artists instead of ending war. 

I have a huge problem with people who ignore the elephant in the room (global capitalism & war run amok) while ranting about a Trader Jose product name because of its 'racist' overtones.   This is one of those issues. You are wasting everyone's valuable time and energy worrying about shit like this (with only a sliver of info they are basing their opinion on) while the world burns.


*To go on a tangent...Al Gore's VP running mate, Joe Lieberman, was almost single-handedly responsible for preventing the passage of a public option for Obamacare.  Some 'liberals' are pieces of shit too.

Yup sure I don't disagree.  The division has gotten really bad though.  We're never gonna solve anything unless we starting talking this shit out. 

[CoryCory]

Just read through it even if I've avoided MetalSucks for years (Mainly because of Axl Rosenberg being one of the most self-indulgent twats in media) and Buzz handled himself pretty well. The key phrase is "I showed some restraint" in lieu of comments. I think back to when Buzz made the comments about that Kurt Cobain documentary and basically doubled down when people lashed out.

He really came out with a well thought out response and I do believe him when he says he had no awareness of prior history with McEnnis. Buzz also strikes me as a guy who's going to roll with the punches no matter what the context of the interview or questions presented are. The guy has talked about everything from dogs to golf to obscure films and other subjects beyond music and presented something to the table of interest.

I'm sticking with my statement that by the time they tour again or put out a new album it's going to blow over. Few fans lost in the grand scheme of it all and those who are being vocal about it never liked the band to begin with. To quote ProJared... "Nobody likes cancel culture except when they can be a part of it.".

[))))((((]

I first noticed this shit brewing on the Electrical Audio forum, people shit talking Buzz over a 2 yr old interview where he said nothing wrong. There are quite a few extreme liberal cucks hanging out there.

Although not a member, i've been reading those boards for years and there are certainly some stupid viewpoints held. Especially in terms of that reactionary thread you refer to. Truly, that one really opened my eyes to just how much people mis-interpret or intentionally twist and skew what is right there in front of them into something that totally isn't. Simply pluck offence out of thin air. It makes me wonder about the intellect of some individuals in how they have politicized or gone off on tangents as to what Buzz said. Seemingly losing all sense of .... well .... sense!

I'm sticking with my statement that by the time they tour again or put out a new album it's going to blow over. Few fans lost in the grand scheme of it all and those who are being vocal about it never liked the band to begin with.

I think that's exactly how it is. Just a silly storm in a teacup. No one really cares and any well adjusted music fan with any shred of normality wouldn't care either. I'll be surprised if the band lose any fans. Post Co-vid, the gigs will be just as packed out as normal and the limited edition vinyl editions will continue to sell like hotcakes.

[Bigval]

Personally as a lefty I think Buzz gets a bit of a bad rap as a right-winger in what is ostensibly a lefty world (the music industry or any creative arts really) but he does have some infantile political views. The whole "Nazi's were socialists because it's in their name" thing is just flat out wrong and more some childish debating point.

Aside from being fascists (far-right) the people the Nazi's killed and tortured the most after Jews were communists (far-left), which lead to them trying to invade the USSR. It's the same as trying to claim that North Korea is a democracy because it's officially in their country's name.

[LuckMach3]

Aside from being fascists (far-right) the people the Nazi's killed and tortured the most after Jews were communists (far-left), which lead to them trying to invade the USSR. It's the same as trying to claim that North Korea is a democracy because it's officially in their country's name.

I've always enjoyed making this point.  There's so much bullshit out there it can take awhile to see through it all.

[Manky]

The whole "Nazi's were socialists because it's in their name" thing is just flat out wrong and more some childish debating point.

in buzz's defense, the early platforms of the Nazi party and what they were using to sell the idea to the people of germany DID contain a lot of the same talking points the socialists of today bring up: a sustainable minimum wage/jobs for all, increased pensions for retired people, affordable higher education for all, expanded government controlled healthcare (as opposed to being controlled by corporations) etc.

now granted, this all came with a price, and at the end of the day, a lot of it was bullshit based on hindsight and what they did.

i took his point (in the context of the interview) that he doesn't trust "the government" to run stuff, from EITHER angle. and he was using the "buyer beware" example of what happened from what was pitched by the people trying to gain influence by what they actually did.

Yes, the simplicity of "the nazi's were socialists, it's in their name" backfired immensely. I also don't think someone who is as big of a WWII buff as him actually BELIEVES that they were socialists when looking at what actually went down and they way they operated.

Socialism by it's very definition requires the government (or something like that to organize everything) that does not mean that that organization cannot ALSO be fascist in every other way possible.   They are not mutually exclusive.  there is a reason people like bernie sanders call themselves democratic socialists.

[amazonAMAZON]

https://www.spin.com/2020/08/buzz-osborne-is-already-over-his-new-solo-album/ did this get posted already? Pretty much the same talking points regarding working with Trevor and how the album developed.

[black stallion]

https://www.spin.com/2020/08/buzz-osborne-is-already-over-his-new-solo-album/ did this get posted already? Pretty much the same talking points regarding working with Trevor and how the album developed.

wow, looks like someone is still interested into music 

[(the) Razor]

Unbelievable , but then again, not so much. Buzz has nothing to apologize for. I'm glad he's standing his ground. Fuck these liberal fuck-tards and their PC bullshit. Go to hell losers. I first noticed this shit brewing on he Electrical Audio forum, people shit talking Buzz over a 2 yr old interview where he said nothing wrong. There are quite a few extreme liberal cucks hanging out there.
Metalsucks.com is and has been an absolute embarrassment of a website. I bookmarked it awhile ago, just to read general "metal" headlines. They're getting worse every day.  I've noticed they've been trying to go back and dig up any dirt on anyone for saying anything that's so called sexist/racist/ or not in view with the mainstream media(covid stuff).

Glad to see someone with common sense.

The left love to cancel, bully and suppress anyone with a differing view.
As long as the man isn't spreading racism, nazism or any personal hate speech. Who gives a shit about his political beliefs are as you say? Can't see why so many have an issue with opposing views.

It reminds me of Trump, who was an American icon of success and wealth....rap industry and many celebrated him as "winning"... until he announced he was a Republican and became a racist/second coming of Hitler overnight back in 2015/2016. 

(I'm indifferent to Trump fwiw, but haven't seen any evidence of him being a racist much like poor old Buzz here copping this shit storm)

[Pelican]

(I'm indifferent to Trump fwiw, but haven't seen any evidence of him being a racist

Really? No evidence?

Here's a good place to start.