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Re: Bad Mood Rising
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2022, 04:21:21 PM »
I would look at it like this

If it’s mentioned as an album, it will get a major release. So Ipecac. Haze Will more than likely do an Art edition or Amrep will release some form of an ep that has 2 or more tracks, and 2 exclusive.

If it’s mentioned as a Amrep single, or Ep and there is some form of a cheapie CD, then it will be Amrep only.

Albums are what the majority want, so that will always be made available. These other things that Amrep does, is for a smaller market.

By the way, an album has to be 31minutes or longer. Regardless of the number of tracks. It’s time. Slayers Reign in Blood is 29. That’s why 2 minutes of Rain was added to the end. The original promo had it on both sides of the tape.
Yes Close to the Edge has 3 songs on it. 37ish minutes. Still an album.
Fantomas Delirium Cordia 1 song at 74ish minutes. Still an album.
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Re: Bad Mood Rising
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2022, 05:30:47 PM »
Pinkus Abortion came out on both Amrep and Ipecac. Granted Ipecac was 2x 10” but it did.
Buzz’s first acoustic came out on both Amrep and Ipecac. Yes the Amrep was 3 separate 10” but it also did.
Good point. I had forgot about those. Both with the same record title too. I hope this new one still gets the Ipecac treatment. As much as i understand why they do it, it always bugs me with all these difficult to get AmRep EP's and such that contain material that never gets a wider release.

My main doubt here is about the CD, from what Haze posted I understood that this is not a special release with less songs than the Ipecac release, so I guess there won’t be an AmRep cheapie CD of this after all.
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Re: Bad Mood Rising
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2022, 05:52:19 PM »
Well, whatever fuckin’ happens, this is awesome news! Cheers all  :cheers:

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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2022, 06:35:30 PM »
Pinkus Abortion came out on both Amrep and Ipecac. Granted Ipecac was 2x 10” but it did.
Buzz’s first acoustic came out on both Amrep and Ipecac. Yes the Amrep was 3 separate 10” but it also did.
Good point. I had forgot about those. Both with the same record title too. I hope this new one still gets the Ipecac treatment. As much as i understand why they do it, it always bugs me with all these difficult to get AmRep EP's and such that contain material that never gets a wider release.

My main doubt here is about the CD, from what Haze posted I understood that this is not a special release with less songs than the Ipecac release, so I guess there won’t be an AmRep cheapie CD of this after all.

What I was trying to say. The fact that there is no Cheapie CD, and Haze said new LP, says to me that it will be an Ipecac released album. What’s the special about it is his art. Get both or just get the normal edition on preferred format.

I also noticed that no songs from the Lord of the Flies are present. That must be a stand-alone EP possibly
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Re: Bad Mood Rising
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2022, 09:36:42 PM »
I also noticed that no songs from the Lord of the Flies are present. That must be a stand-alone EP possibly

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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2022, 11:50:27 PM »
I also noticed that no songs from the Lord of the Flies are present. That must be a stand-alone EP possibly

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Re: Bad Mood Rising
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2022, 11:51:46 PM »
I'm a firm believer that the artist determines what is an Album or EP and not the listener. There's too many bizarre examples I could pick at that haven't been mentioned already.

That said, I'm down for a Lysol-length Melvins album in 2022 as long as it's packed in with goodness. All killer, no filler as they say.

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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2022, 12:44:55 AM »
I'm a firm believer that the artist determines what is an Album or EP and not the listener. There's too many bizarre examples I could pick at that haven't been mentioned already.

I disagree there have been too many dodgy incidents over the years with bands/artists trying to claim EP's as albums (ala NIN). They're not. Another issue is that for charting purposes EP's are counted as singles which is why a lot of bands/artists try to claim them as albums. The industry standard for what qualifies as an album in the US is 30 minutes and in the UK it's 25 minutes.

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In the United States, The Recording Academy's rules for Grammy Awards state that an album must comprise a minimum total playing time of 15 minutes with at least five distinct tracks or a minimum total playing time of 30 minutes with no minimum track requirement.[14] In the United Kingdom, the criteria for the UK Albums Chart is that a recording counts as an "album" if it either has more than four tracks or lasts more than 25 minutes

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Re: Bad Mood Rising
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2022, 01:13:39 AM »
What I was trying to say. The fact that there is no Cheapie CD, and Haze said new LP, says to me that it will be an Ipecac released album.
Very true. If it does come out on Ipecac, it is such a weird move that Haze is the one to officially break the news of it's existence! They have never done that before. It will be odd if in a few weeks time or something Ipecac suddenly announce it too.

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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2022, 04:18:34 AM »
I'm not right up on the vinyl stuff but don't Ipecac have 'first rights' on Melvins album vinyl releases which would again point to this being an EP? I remember a lot of people on here complaining about Ipecac's vinyl releases of Melvins albums and Amrep have done some too but I think they've always been re-issues of the Ipecac ones.

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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2022, 10:50:12 AM »
I'm not right up on the vinyl stuff but don't Ipecac have 'first rights' on Melvins album vinyl releases which would again point to this being an EP?
It's most definitely NOT an EP. At least in duration anyway. We know how long 'Never Say...' and 'Receiver...' are and just looking at the grooves on the vinyl you can see the length of the other tracks by comparison. Mr Dog still looks like 10/11 minutes in line with the live version. Then the other three unknown tracks on side B all look to be in the 4-6 minute mark. So i'd say it's quite clear that this will be around the fairly standard 35 minute duration that we tend to see from Melvins.

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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2022, 11:22:09 AM »
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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2022, 02:06:16 PM »
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Re: Bad Mood Rising
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2022, 06:36:28 PM »
My take is that this will be the “fancy art” Haze was talking about. Now that others have noticed 2 of the songs already exist on an EP, I’d also say that Ipecec will have its own art like the Pinkus Abortion did.

Also in regards to Haze mentioning first about the release, I’m sure the Pinkus one was the same and Ipecec was more on promoting a Patton release at the time. Possibly Dead Cross at that time also, I can’t remember. Or I might even have the Melvins release wrong. I do remember however, there was a Melvins album coming out, but they plugged the Patton release more on their site.
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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2022, 06:45:50 PM »
The only thing that has me doubting is the time frame. In ALL the recent Melvins albums they have been announced almost exactly 3 months before they came out. Even the new Dead Cross one has been too. To see Ipecac not even mention Bad Mood Rising yet and for it to come out in just 4 weeks or so seems totally implausible. Maybe they were going to announce it in August and Haze fucked up by mentioning it.