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Title: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: EVILSTACK on November 20, 2008, 02:19:21 PM
 :?

Been getting back into some Melvins stuff again recently after not paying them much attention of late (been too busy listening to more heavy hitting metal type acts like Pig Destroyer, Meshuggah, and erm Opeth! - they dudes suck of course tho) and anyway strangely i find the Melvins guys (and Fantomas too) much less appealing than i did before. Im not gonna say they're rubbish but they just don't sound A W E S O M E to me now like they once did. To my own surprsie i've hardly even really delved into 'Nude With Boots' that much too! Gotta say the only amazing Melvins stuff i really rate is 'Pigs Of The Roman Empire' and 'The Maggot' but everything else (especially some of those naffy, hilariously unhilarous Stag tunes) i can leave well alone. Is my Melvins worship finally come to an end? Do you guys have moments where your normally unshakeable Melvins belief is questioned? And is Mr Buzzo himself not as much a musical god to me now, more of a foolish oaf with an irritating laugh and smart arse demenour? All this is beginning to make me wonder whether it is impossible to like one artist/act for years. After a while does every band sound a bit boring and no longer does the business for ya! Im sad to think of the answers  :( Rant away i guess!
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Post by: Smoghler on November 20, 2008, 02:45:55 PM
Maybe it's the winter depression? ;)

Music tastes are constantly changing.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: You Look Like Such a on November 20, 2008, 03:08:29 PM
Get the hell out of here, heathen.
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Post by: Chomas on November 20, 2008, 03:14:15 PM
this thread is awful
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Post by: FartLips on November 20, 2008, 03:17:53 PM
once again, crack and melvins dont mix.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Andy on November 20, 2008, 03:45:58 PM
I'm not bored of em yet, but who's to say what will happen in the future? I went back to Stoner Witch last week and I think I enjoyed it even more than back when it was the only Melvins album I had. Now I have, er, many many albums. I think they've remained distinctive whilst evolving and changing a lot throughout the years and that's cool. I haven't really listened to _that_ many bands as intently to find out about them though, they could all be like that for all I know! The more you know, the less you think you know.

Change is good though! It's healthy. Rotation of the record collection is fine by me.
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Post by: Insomnivore on November 20, 2008, 03:56:08 PM
Burn the witch! Burn the witch! Burn the witch!

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Post by: Ymmuipo on November 20, 2008, 05:14:51 PM
Quote from: You Look Like Such a on November 20, 2008, 03:08:29 PM
Get the hell out of here, heathen.

I feel ya on this one You Look.
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Post by: Stooges on November 20, 2008, 06:24:14 PM
Heresy!
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: suck poppet on November 20, 2008, 07:21:26 PM
MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!

they're better
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: bigjim on November 20, 2008, 08:17:25 PM
The Melvins are probably the only band I have grown to like more and more over the years. I always dug their stuff but over the years seem to appreciate them more than I did when I first discovered them.  When its completely opposite for other bands I like or liked.
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Post by: bUTTHOLEmAN on November 20, 2008, 08:20:08 PM
Who sucks more, the melvins or Primus?
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Post by: cara on November 20, 2008, 09:02:51 PM
Quotebeen too busy listening to more heavy hitting metal type acts like Pig Destroyer, Meshuggah, and erm Opeth!

Well i find it hard to believe that you find these bands "heavy hitting" while finding the Melvins boring.. perhaps you would like the Melvins more if they became a mediocre prog rock band?
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: grays harbor mafia on November 20, 2008, 09:16:44 PM
YOU AREN'T AS GOOD AS I THOUGHT!!!! =;  TALK TO THE HAND CAUSE THE FACE DONT WANT TO HEAR IT!! =;
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Idlehanz on November 20, 2008, 09:55:39 PM
The Melvins are the only band I've never become bored with.  Not once in 18 years have I thought that I needed to take a break.  There isn't a single other band that I've thought that way about.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Dr.Benway on November 20, 2008, 09:59:15 PM
I think that when you look back on records like GPT, Ozma, 10 songs and realize how young those guys were, you'd have to say that they are once in a generation musical geniuses with a vision.  Especially taking into consideration Buzz hadn't been playing guitar or writing songs for all that long.  They've only gotten better with time.  The riffs, the lyrics, the art, the interviews, there's so much to like.  How can one get bored with them?  There's so much variety in execution.  Just put on a different record.
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Post by: anaconda on November 20, 2008, 10:07:30 PM
i feel the same. it's hard to get tired of a band
when you've grown up with them through all
their twists and turns for 25 years.

if you get tired of the new stuff, play some of
the old stuff, and if you get tired of the old stuff, play
the mid period stuff. if the mark d stuff gets too
familiar, throw on the rutmanis stuff.  and so on..
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Buick GN on November 20, 2008, 10:40:52 PM
Quote from: bUTTHOLEmAN on November 20, 2008, 08:20:08 PM
Who sucks more, the melvins or Primus?
If you followed Primus, bUTTY..you already know the answer to this.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: >>>JZS<<< on November 21, 2008, 08:19:20 AM
What the F......Look,the Melvins will be  sitting in the Kennedy Center accepting their Lifetime Achievement Award......because they will always be AWESOME.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: black stallion on November 21, 2008, 08:34:36 AM
everyone of us can go through a bad period,but you know we're here for everything you need,as a big family :)
(http://www.casoli.info/casoli/notizie/catena_umana.jpg)
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: rictus on November 21, 2008, 08:46:04 AM
I do get burned out on them from time to time, like right now Melvins haven't been in heavy rotation, probably because I was listening to them non-stop around the time of the last show I went to. But, for the most part there's always an album of theirs I can put on that suits my mood.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: glen on November 21, 2008, 10:04:21 AM
they're like your banky or your na-na or whatever you called your favorite blanket when you were 2.    no matter how many years pass, no matter how worn and tattered, there is always a special comforting quality to them that you just can't let go of.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: molotov on November 21, 2008, 10:17:18 AM
Quote from: Insomnivore on November 20, 2008, 03:56:08 PM
Burn the witch! Burn the witch! Burn the witch!
Quote from: Stooges on November 20, 2008, 06:24:14 PM
Heresy!
The Inquisition was cancelled in XIX century.
Let's just lobotomize him.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: seas of luck on November 21, 2008, 02:33:43 PM
They frequently release albums and I enjoy every one of them, they tour frequently and shows and priced right, they've inspired a ton of other great bands, they have a ton of rare stuff to buy so my collection will never be complete, they talk to their fans and are really cool in person, and they collaborate with other artists I love like David Yow, Foetus, Jello Biafra, etc.

I don't want to say that they are perfect but they come about as close as a band can come.  After being a fan for nearly four years they just keep getting better.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Idlehanz on November 21, 2008, 02:51:19 PM
Quote from: glen on November 21, 2008, 10:04:21 AM
they're like your banky or your na-na or whatever you called your favorite blanket when you were 2.    no matter how many years pass, no matter how worn and tattered, there is always a special comforting quality to them that you just can't let go of.
Now we know what you called yours :P
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: stonerwitch on November 21, 2008, 04:16:58 PM
QuoteAnd is Mr Buzzo himself not as much a musical god to me now, more of a foolish oaf with an irritating laugh and smart arse demenour?

I've never considered him a musical god. Theres really no one out there right now that I would consider a god who's in the music biz.

But I do say I like his attitude and it comes through in the music.

And the message that comes through is saying if you don't like what you hear, fuck off.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: (the) Razor on November 21, 2008, 05:25:04 PM
That thread I started the other week, well I think one of the main reasons I still keep listening to them is because the music doesn't age. At all. The only giveaway of the date is the production/recording. But other than that...Take Bullhead for example....Heavy as anything and it was done 17-18 years ago...Lysol too!

Listen to other music from early 90's and mid 80's and it can sound so dated you can instantly pin point when it was done...even a band as awesome as the Cows - their albums are a bit dated. I think it's one of the reasons why everyone is still able to listen to Melvins without getting tired.
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Post by: grays harbor mafia on November 21, 2008, 05:55:30 PM
 :D :) :( :o :shock: :? 8) :lol: :x :P
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Mad Arab on November 21, 2008, 07:23:16 PM
My opinion is that GPT and OZMA are the Melvins masterpieces considering what someone else said about their young age and limited experience with their intruments when these albums were recorded.

I think Buzz sounds better today as far as vocals go but I think musically every album they have done since these two are sort of a de-evolution of that sound. I like all their stuff, but I really dig that dirty but technical sound from GPT, Ozma and 10 songs.

I think a freaking kick butt album would be a mix of the technical stuff from GPT and Ozma mixed with the dual drumming and harmonized vocals from their current era.

Call me dumb if you want.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: >>>JZS<<< on November 21, 2008, 10:44:35 PM
Quote from: A Resident of Buzz's Afro on November 21, 2008, 07:23:16 PM
My opinion is that GPT and OZMA are the Melvins masterpieces considering what someone else said about their young age and limited experience with their instruments when these albums were recorded.

I think Buzz sounds better today as far as vocals go but I think musically every album they have done since these two are sort of a de-evolution of that sound. I like all their stuff, but I really dig that dirty but technical sound from GPT, Ozma and 10 songs.

I think a freaking kick butt album would be a mix of the technical stuff from GPT and Ozma mixed with the dual drumming and harmonized vocals from their current era.

Call me dumb if you want.

Yes,YES & YES!, also consistently  unique & entertaining for 25 yrs.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: cara on November 22, 2008, 02:05:36 AM
I'm not huge on gpt and Ozma mainly becuase i prefer the Melvins with a 'cleaner' sound if that makes sense. Adding extra structure like that could be really cool.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: norecess on November 22, 2008, 07:28:25 AM
Quote from: A Resident of Buzz's Afro on November 21, 2008, 07:23:16 PM
My opinion is that GPT and OZMA are the Melvins masterpieces considering what someone else said about their young age and limited experience with their intruments when these albums were recorded.

Amen. I'm a big Melvins and I love everything they've done, but whenever I put on Gluey I cannot help but wondering what must have going on during those jams, as everthing is so brutal, insane, complex, tricky and beautiful. And I don't think I will ever stop wondering and appreciating.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Mad Arab on November 22, 2008, 08:02:26 AM
Do they know how good those albums are? Do they know how they are regarded among us? It seems like they don't think they are that great.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: norecess on November 22, 2008, 09:14:32 AM
Quote from: A Resident of Buzz's Afro on November 22, 2008, 08:02:26 AM
Do they know how good those albums are?

It's hard to tell, as they see know how they have evolved and become better players.
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Post by: GrimReaper on November 22, 2008, 11:07:28 AM


When asked about the opportunity to play Houdini live Buzz was grateful Ozma wasn't requested.

It would have been too much like work.
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Post by: anaconda on November 22, 2008, 11:15:58 AM
ya, he says playing that album now would be too much like solving math problems and equations.
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Post by: norecess on November 22, 2008, 12:09:59 PM
They are writing songs now, instead of avant-garde poetry.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: al27 on November 22, 2008, 12:23:53 PM
I go through different musical phases too, but whenever I come back to my Melvins albums they always impress, usually for a different reason than before.

As heavy bands go, the Melvins are awesome.

-al27
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Mad Arab on November 22, 2008, 12:30:42 PM
Buzz has gotten lazy.
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Post by: Buick GN on November 22, 2008, 08:42:16 PM
Quote from: A Resident of Buzz's Afro on November 22, 2008, 12:30:42 PM
Buzz has gotten lazy.
*prick*
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Mad Arab on November 22, 2008, 09:22:01 PM
He is lazy. He created these math problems known as GPT and Ozma. Sounds like to me he doesn't want to reaquaint himself with those songs except for a few of them.
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Post by: (the) Razor on November 22, 2008, 09:36:31 PM
I just hope we get another super heavy melvins album in the not too distant future. Been a decade since Maggot.  :P
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Post by: anaconda on November 22, 2008, 09:51:20 PM
the buzz on the hush is that a new album is coming early summer july 2009!! 12 new songs.
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Post by: grays harbor mafia on November 22, 2008, 09:52:21 PM
I don't think he doesn't like them... i think they moight have forgot how to play some of the songs because its been so long since they recorded them
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Post by: al27 on November 22, 2008, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: SpaceFarm on November 22, 2008, 09:36:31 PM
I just hope we get another super heavy melvins album in the not too distant future. Been a decade since Maggot.  :P

(A)SA was only two years ago.  That one wasn't heavy enough for you?


Cause I have a hard time NOT throwing myself around the room listening to that album.  Pure Rock ENERGY!!!

-al27
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Post by: jlamour on November 23, 2008, 03:45:54 AM
Quote from: SpaceFarm on November 22, 2008, 09:36:31 PM
I just hope we get another super heavy melvins album in the not too distant future. Been a decade since Maggot.  :P

My opinion, The Maggot was their heaviest, most beautiful album and is my favorite from their oeuvre.  I listen to that album faithfully and I would love to hear what the new line up can create in comparison.  The last 2 albums are great, FAR better than anything anyone else put out there, but they're not what really make me love The Melvins.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: (the) Razor on November 23, 2008, 05:36:11 AM
Quote from: al27 on November 22, 2008, 10:14:29 PM
Quote from: SpaceFarm on November 22, 2008, 09:36:31 PM
I just hope we get another super heavy melvins album in the not too distant future. Been a decade since Maggot.  :P

(A)SA was only two years ago.  That one wasn't heavy enough for you?


Cause I have a hard time NOT throwing myself around the room listening to that album.  Pure Rock ENERGY!!!

-al27

It wasn't "Heavy", ASA just rocked.

What I meant by super heavy was something  like a big doom Lysol/Maggot mammoth album. But hey, whatever they do - I'm probably going to end up buying it, hating it for the first week then loving it.
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Post by: cara on November 23, 2008, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: grays harbor mafia on November 22, 2008, 09:52:21 PM
I don't think he doesn't like them... i think they moight have forgot how to play some of the songs because its been so long since they recorded them

with a discography that big how could you not forget some stuff?
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Mad Arab on November 23, 2008, 12:02:02 PM
He wrote the songs. They toured relentlessly playing them songs. But I am sure they are rusty if they haven't played them in awhile.
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Post by: Uncle Fester on November 23, 2008, 02:31:22 PM
I cant say Im surprised that most of the comments in this thread are written by people who take the topic way too seriously. why are you guys so offended?
I think theres bands out there just as crazy as the melvins who I love listening to.... I dont think its sucha terrible thing to not be into the melvins for a brief moment.... yeah if you listen to bullhead 25 times straight its going to get boring. it doesnt mean I hate the melvins if I get bored of listening to all their stuff...I just go to a various bunch of different bands and listen to them... Im going to always love the melvins but I know I need a break once in a while to broaden my musical horizon. thats what the melvins are about...opening up and excersizing musical muscle and being courageous enough to try something new.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Mad Arab on November 23, 2008, 03:01:28 PM
No one is suggesting that you can't get bored with the Melvins. I haven't listened to them for a little while. The last song I listened to was Joan of Arc. Currently I have been listening to a much better band: Wolfmother. They rock.
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Post by: Justafilthylurker on November 23, 2008, 03:09:04 PM
Quote from: A Resident of Buzz's Afro on November 23, 2008, 03:01:28 PM
No one is suggesting that you can't get bored with the Melvins. I haven't listened to them for a little while. The last song I listened to was Joan of Arc. Currently I have been listening to a much better band: Wolfmother. They rock.

Oh god, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

Ozma and GPT are nowhere near as complicated as people make out. You just write a few riffs in a row and then find an awesome drummer who can exactly follow them.
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Post by: pinkyslim on November 23, 2008, 03:11:06 PM
Wolfmother is tired rehash lame gay homo rock.

Be a real man and listen to CROM from Los Angeles.
They will make your little dick grow to 3".

[-X  Wolfmother.

CROM :twisted:
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Post by: Uncle Fester on November 23, 2008, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: A Resident of Buzz's Afro on November 23, 2008, 03:01:28 PM
No one is suggesting that you can't get bored with the Melvins. I haven't listened to them for a little while. The last song I listened to was Joan of Arc. Currently I have been listening to a much better band: Wolfmother. They rock.
yes they are suggesting it. the whole world is suggesting it. Certainly.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Chris P. Bacon on November 23, 2008, 06:24:23 PM
FUCK THIS THREAD MELVINS RULE THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE.SO SUCK IT DRY 8)
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Post by: al27 on November 23, 2008, 08:50:02 PM
Quote from: A Resident of Buzz's Afro on November 23, 2008, 03:01:28 PM
Currently I have been listening to a much better band: Wolfmother. They rock.

My eyes... I can't un-see it!!!!

-al27
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Mad Arab on November 23, 2008, 09:21:09 PM
LOL HA HA HA  HA HA HA.

Wolfmother>Melvins
Did you notice that Buzz ripped off the hair style from Wolfmother's singer?
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: cara on November 23, 2008, 09:22:36 PM
Quote from: Uncle Fester on November 23, 2008, 02:31:22 PM
I cant say Im surprised that most of the comments in this thread are written by people who take the topic way too seriously. why are you guys so offended?
I think theres bands out there just as crazy as the melvins who I love listening to.... I dont think its sucha terrible thing to not be into the melvins for a brief moment.... yeah if you listen to bullhead 25 times straight its going to get boring. it doesnt mean I hate the melvins if I get bored of listening to all their stuff...I just go to a various bunch of different bands and listen to them... Im going to always love the melvins but I know I need a break once in a while to broaden my musical horizon. thats what the melvins are about...opening up and excersizing musical muscle and being courageous enough to try something new.

we're dealing with serious business here!

actually i think people are offended because their favorite band is being put down. Not in a terrible way of course, but people are touchy about their favorite music and take any put downs personally. It was to be expected in this topic.
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: Mad Arab on November 23, 2008, 09:22:59 PM
Quote from: Justafilthylurker on November 23, 2008, 03:09:04 PM
Quote from: A Resident of Buzz's Afro on November 23, 2008, 03:01:28 PM
No one is suggesting that you can't get bored with the Melvins. I haven't listened to them for a little while. The last song I listened to was Joan of Arc. Currently I have been listening to a much better band: Wolfmother. They rock.

Oh god, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!

Ozma and GPT are nowhere near as complicated as people make out. You just write a few riffs in a row and then find an awesome drummer who can exactly follow them.

When Buzz describes Ozma's songs as math problems, that indicates that there is some technicality to that album and GPT as well since it is in the same vein. Much more than say Stoner Witch, ASA, Houdini and NWB.
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Post by: FartLips on November 23, 2008, 11:45:44 PM
Quote from: A Resident of Buzz's Afro on November 23, 2008, 09:21:09 PM
LOL HA HA HA  HA HA HA.

Wolfmother>Melvins
Did you notice that Buzz ripped off the hair style from Wolfmother's singer?
he did! he did! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: MELVINS aren't as good as i thought!
Post by: pinkyslim on November 24, 2008, 01:11:24 AM
http://www.myspace.com/crom1